[Gareth J]

After a disasterous year (weather, not enough time available etc.) I have decided to be more organised next year, you know, plant things when they should be planted and HAVE A PLAN  

So I have planned out my plot, its all dug (twice to get rid of as many marestail roots as I could spot) and my plan allows me to know what I should plant when I get a day off  
I would appreciate the benefit of the wisdom (or experience or both or just good advice) that is kindly given here.

hopefully if this intoe tekno thingy works then my plan should be below, if not then be amazed at the blank space below   all comments are greatfully received



whoops that was Tracies facebook page  

http://gardenplanner.suttons.co.uk/garden-plan.aspx?p=202900

[DD.]

Nice link to novelty cakes!

[Gareth J]

Sorry      I wasnt touting for trade. how do I get the plan to appear instead of a link?

[gobs]

Is it to scale? For you cannot possibly need that many corgettes, spring onions and beans.

[Gareth J]

according to the sutton website its all to scale and it also calculates space needed for each plant. I was not nessesarily going to plant the quantities shown but I was just trying to get an overall plan together.

[gobs]

I'm quite in line with their quantities on several plants. It all depends on how much you like/use of any one. I do about 12 of a lot of crops, brassica all sorts and celeriac. And about 40 corn.

57 new potatoes I find a LOT. Whatever many Calabrese, whatever they mean, 2 sprouting plants give oodles of a crop. Similarly, who wants more than one or two courgettes, must be sick. Or having a strange hobby.

[Gareth J]

I wanted to arrange the allotment in the way my grandfather did, he planted in the victorian fashion with neat straight rows and never a space in the ground. never any weeds either, I dont know how he did it because I never saw him weed like I have to. He just used to bend down occasionally and pick out the tiniest root and then survey his plot with a very satisfied smile. does anyone have any advice on victorian planting?

[gobs]

The Victorian kitchen garden is more like squarish beds, in a walled garden surround, if I'm not mistaken.

But you can still do rows. 

[Willie_Eckerslike]

Nice link to novelty cakes!

Helpful would be nice, instead of sarcasm.

Just trying to help...................

[gobs]

Have you no sense of humour?

It must be hard to garden without.

[Paul Plots]

I wanted to arrange the allotment in the way my grandfather did, he planted in the victorian fashion with neat straight rows and never a space in the ground. never any weeds either, I dont know how he did it because I never saw him weed like I have to. He just used to bend down occasionally and pick out the tiniest root and then survey his plot with a very satisfied smile. does anyone have any advice on victorian planting?

I love your rows... I find my plot easier to weed, water and organise using rows. Victorian? It maybe. Perhaps in Victorian times when more of the ordinary folk grew their own veg it made better use of the ground?

Victorian Walled gardens (for the posh lot) may well have been organised differently with particular annual beds for specific crops. I'm not hugely organised but have just a roungh plan in mind which avoids the same crops in the same spaces two (sometimes three) years running.

As for potatoes - I grow tons! An easy and worthwhile crop that usually stores very well and keeps us going for months.

Last year I filled in with square beds and rectangular strips but back to rows this coming year as I feel it really is easier.

[Nikkithefoot]

I tend to plant in rows, but with little room between them. This does two things, close growing plants help suppress weeds, less ground (in my personal opinion) gets trodden down. I crop heavily BUT my ground is very well fed with loads of manure and I rotate my crops so as not to deplete the ground of nutrients.

With things being so close together it is harder to plan, small plants being shaded by taller ones etc, increased risk of diseases spreading across the plot etc. but I find it works.

[DD.]

Nice link to novelty cakes!

Helpful would be nice, instead of sarcasm.

Just trying to help...................

That was helpful in that I said the link was wrong in a gentle sort of way, without putting it bluntly. I'd hardly call it sarcasm.

Now, as gobs says, get a sense of humour!

[Willie_Eckerslike]

Nice link to novelty cakes!

Helpful would be nice, instead of sarcasm.

Just trying to help...................

That was helpful in that I said the link was wrong in a gentle sort of way, without putting it bluntly. I'd hardly call it sarcasm.

Now, as gobs says, get a sense of humour!

OK so the link has been changed. 

'Pologies..............  :blink: 

[gobs]

I wanted to arrange the allotment in the way my grandfather did, he planted in the victorian fashion with neat straight rows and never a space in the ground. never any weeds either, I dont know how he did it because I never saw him weed like I have to. He just used to bend down occasionally and pick out the tiniest root and then survey his plot with a very satisfied smile. does anyone have any advice on victorian planting?

I love your rows... I find my plot easier to weed, water and organise using rows. Victorian? It maybe. Perhaps in Victorian times when more of the ordinary folk grew their own veg it made better use of the ground?

Victorian Walled gardens (for the posh lot) may well have been organised differently with particular annual beds for specific crops. I'm not hugely organised but have just a roungh plan in mind which avoids the same crops in the same spaces two (sometimes three) years running.

As for potatoes - I grow tons! An easy and worthwhile crop that usually stores very well and keeps us going for months.

Last year I filled in with square beds and rectangular strips but back to rows this coming year as I feel it really is easier.

Everybody forms and shapes their garden to their liking in the end. All these are just guides to start you off.

I took on an overgrown plot 4 years ago, a guy this summer said: It looking like your plot now.