[m1ckz]

blo   ody ell  7 99 a plant    lol

[mumofstig]

ACTUALLY it says................

available as super plug plants with 3 plants costing £7.99.

[Beetroot Queen]

Fabulous for the community poly yipppe do dah well found MOS

[Baldy]

I'll wait for MOS's report on success/failure/taste in c. September 2015 and then perhaps buy some seeds... 

Pip pip,
Balders

[Robster]

Are they F1's could you seed save?

[Mrs Bee]

Well I think it will be worth getting a few plants to try especially as the seeds I bought last year that were supposed to be blight resistant and weren't.

It will be the flavour that will be as important as the blight resistance

Thanks for the heads up on this one MOS.

[Robster]

Fully agree with Mrs Bee.  If the flavours not good no need being blight resistant.  Having said that I lost all my outdoor tomatoes last year.  Never had a problem in the greenhouse.

[m1ckz]

arrrrr   3 plants  thats better lol

[beesrus]

Hmmmmmm. We all want blight free toms, that's for sure, but I think I'll be giving this one a miss for a year or two and see how things develop. £7.99 PLUS £4.99 postage = £12.98 for 3 plants !..... it's cheaper to just buy tomatoes from the shop.
Blight resistant, not immune, and still vulnerable to our old fungal friend that causes my greenhouse toms more problems than blight. They seem to have seen it important to stress no genetically modified methods have been used. I must say as soon as I see scientists involved in vegetable genes, as in this case, my ears prick up.

Are they F1's could you seed save?

Suttons haven't said yet whether the plant will be marketed as F1 or open pollinated. My guess would be F1 and hence no useful seeds. In the past, good hybrids using the F1 methods have been worked on for generations of plants, and eventually become regarded as open pollinated, and viable where seed saving is concerned. Rutger tomatoes are an example I think I have read somewhere, but it does take time.

I see John of allotment-garden wrote on Crimson Crush a few weeks back
http://allotment-garden.org/garden-diary/3313/blight-free-tomato-armillatox-end/

[Growster...]

At £7.99 - nope - I'll be spraying with aspirin and Bordeaux like last year and believing what our forbears used to do!

Worked well, but you have to watch what's going on!

We're planning to grow six dozen plants this year, so £192.00 for a few toms doesn't actually fill me with the joys of spring!

[Kristen]

We're planning to grow six dozen plants this year, so £192.00 for a few toms doesn't actually fill me with the joys of spring!

"Armpit cuttings" would give you that stock only a few weeks behind the original Mother plants ...

I'm only interested in flavour, and often disease resistance comes at a compromise on flavour. It certainly did with Blight resistant spuds, although that has improved of late.

Of course growing only best-flavour and then having a total-loss of the crop is not much cop! but I'm still head-in-sand on my preferred varieties (of all veg, not just Toms)

[Headgardener22]

The suttons seeds blog says that seeds will be available for 2016 as part of their 2015 catalogue. So I'm waiting until then. My guess is they'll still be expensive but nothing like as expensive as the plants.

Unfortunately Suttons have exclusive rights so they'll never be cheap.

[Growster...]

We're planning to grow six dozen plants this year, so £192.00 for a few toms doesn't actually fill me with the joys of spring!

"Armpit cuttings" would give you that stock only a few weeks behind the original Mother plants ...

I'm only interested in flavour, and often disease resistance comes at a compromise on flavour. It certainly did with Blight resistant spuds, although that has improved of late.

Of course growing only best-flavour and then having a total-loss of the crop is not much cop! but I'm still head-in-sand on my preferred varieties (of all veg, not just Toms)

Took me a while to understand what you meant, Kristen, (the term you used is not far from my name, and used to be a nick-name when I was a kid, so I was sitting here wondering how on earth you knew who I was), but yes you're right, unless the plants revert in some way, which I doubt!

I'm trying a new experiment this year, by using Sungold seed from last year, which may revert to a bigger specimen of fruit, but have the same flavour!

Nothing wrong with head in the sand, it means you're closer to nature!

[Kristen]

Of course I would never condone taking the Armpit cuttings at the garden centre, thus enabling the garden centre to sell Cordons with all the side shoots correctly removed ...

[mumofstig]

That would just be helping them, wouldn't it Kristen?