[victoria_plum]

It was growing up next to a tree in the garden

[compostqueen]

it looks like cerinthe or euphorbia

[Hey Jude]

I'd disagree with cerinthe (sorry CQ!), but I've got a clematis with that shaped leaf but phlox's are that shape too- is it a bushy plant, or long stem and then leaves? (not sure that it will help me but it's a good game whilst munching my crispbreads!!!) Jude

[victoria_plum]

It is about six foot tall... long stem then leaves  (I think)

[Aunt Sally]

Post another picture when it flowers

[victoria_plum]

Hmm.. that's the tricky bit.  It is growing through a manky hebe which my brother gave me, seven foot tall and leggy.

I can't decide whether to plant the hebe or not, looks like it might have some disease anyway.  Spotted leaves etc  

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE HEBE


So I wondered if the creeping thing was a binafide plant and I should plant it.

[Trillium]

I've never had a clematis with stems/branches like that so I doubt it's clematis. I've also never seen clematis with that sort of leaf spot. Wish I could give a better answer.

[victoria_plum]

I've never had a clematis with stems/branches like that so I doubt it's clematis. I've also never seen clematis with that sort of leaf spot. Wish I could give a better answer.

No - sorry that is the HEBE!!  The climbing thing is the first picture!

[Spana]

Do you think its this

[victoria_plum]

looks like it?

[Spana]

I cant remember what its called but can describe it so someone else may know.

It flowers towards the end of the summer and has hanging down sort of bract type flowers in mauve and white  followed by berries.

Strange i cant recall its name but can remember what it looks like.  I had concussion last year and lots of things were  wiped off the slate

[JayG]

I don't see the long red leaf stalks on yours VP.  

[Spana]

You're right JayG.  Been and had another look and althought not all red each leaf IS on a stalk. 

[JayG]

DavidT is usually quite good at this sort of thing and will probably be along later unless he's still munching on his lava bread (or out electioneering!) 

(Couldn't be much less help than we are could he?) 

[New shoot]

I cant remember what its called but can describe it so someone else may know.

It flowers towards the end of the summer and has hanging down sort of bract type flowers in mauve and white  followed by berries.

Strange i cant recall its name but can remember what it looks like.  I had concussion last year and lots of things were  wiped off the slate

Leycesteria formosa?  Pheasant Berry is it's common name.