[Paddywack]

Hi all,

This has been puzzling me over the couple of weeks, you see lots of warrens which are all hens ok, but you dont see warren cocks or am i missing something.

And are warrens, hybrids the ones that are locked up in battery barns, if not what is the parentage i know its a simple answer but i'm thick

can anyone give me a nod in the right direction?

Thanks

[chickenlady]

Hello, Yes warrens are the hybrids that battery farms use but also they are free rangers as they lay ots of eggies, the cockerels aren't used for breeding and apparently no good for meat so unfortunately they tend to be used as snake food shortle after they hatch ( warren chicks are ginger if hens and yellow if they are boys!!) hope this helps and if im wrong I too will learn something new today!! the parentage of a warren is a light sussex hen crossed with a rhode island red cockerel

[chooknewbie]

*has learnt something new about her ladies today*....  (warrens obviously, and besides the fact that they escaped today...little devils...had my heart in my mouth!!!)

[blulagoo]

I think mine are warrens - the girl is def a brown 'battery' type and the boy is white - when they were babies ( Living eggs) the boy was a white chick and the girl a yellow one. Lady who delivered said this was always the case as sex linked.

[too many girls]

i thought battery hens were isa browns, you live and learn.......

[Kate and her Ducks]

Think warrens and isa browns were the same but don't look at me, you know I know nothing :roll:

[blulagoo]

I never said I was right TMG!! What is the difference between ISA and Warrens?

[too many girls]

haven't the faintest

[chickenlady]

We have 2 goldlines (same as a warren) and a babcock from living eggs too, our boys were yellow and the girlies were ginger/brown???

[too many girls]

so Isa browns, warrens and goldlines are all the same? now i'm confused.

[chickenlady]

yes they are, the same as a blackrock is the same as a blackstar etc. They all have different names even though they have the same parentage, its just the different breeders have their own names for them. As they can say their parent stock are best etc.

[blulagoo]

A rose by any other name and all that - they are still lovely as chicks!

[GrannieAnnie]

As we've discussed in other posts, all the brown hybrids aren't exactly the same, but basically they all seem to be a RIR x Lt sussex mixture. (so are the Ambers, but that's the other way round,) however, they aren't a straight cross, they have bits of other things in them too.

Just about all the hybrids belong to Hendrix Genetics in Holland, and if you look on their website, under Products you can see pics of all the breeds. And they are almost identical, but with the odd difference.  Like Babcocks are almost the same, but they have black tails, where most of the brown hybrids have white or creamy tails.  And some are a lighter brown or more ginger in.

Its very interesting, but very confusing too!!!!