comfrey or borage?

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JohnB47

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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2013, 17:50 »
I grew about five borage plants last year, from seed. Each plant grew to about a foot high and consisted mostly of flowers - very few leaves and small ones at that. Not much good for adding to my comfrey 'factory'.

Are there different varieties of borage? I was hoping for lots of leaves, like on my comfrey plants.

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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2013, 10:27 »
I don't know  :unsure:

The blue ones on my plot have leaves very much like comfrey so I bung them in the compo bins and my comfrey pipe just as I would comfrey

Borage self-seeds like mad so I have no doubt you haven't seen the last of it Annen  :)

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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2013, 10:47 »
There are different varieties and it may be that you sowed a dwarf variety.

Borage officinalis (sp?) grows to 3' and I've had a very productive stand of it when sown in mid-summer, so with no compunction I've hacked it down before it seeds.
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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2013, 11:28 »
There are different varieties and it may be that you sowed a dwarf variety.

Borage officinalis (sp?) grows to 3' and I've had a very productive stand of it when sown in mid-summer, so with no compunction I've hacked it down before it seeds.
No, its definitely NOT a dwarf variety, it gets to waist high before it falls over and seeds everywhere, the 20 little plants I took out were just next year's monsters-in-waiting.
CQ, I've already discovered some seedlings I missed!
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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2013, 11:51 »
Annen!  I was referring to JohnB's post, not yours!

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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2013, 11:52 »
They come up all over the place. I'd move them to where you want them while they're still small plants as they don't seem to take if you move them when they're big

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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2013, 21:35 »
Annen!  I was referring to JohnB's post, not yours!

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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2013, 10:26 »
Borage self seeds with massive abandon - you'll see it popping up everywhere next year if you've had a plant this year. I use the young leaves in salads and freeze the flowers in ice cubes - looks v pretty!

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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2013, 12:58 »
Thanks for all the replies.

Actually my 'Suffolk Seeds' packet does call them Borage officinalis. Let's see how their offspring do next year. I'll be on guard for the invasion, thanks to the various warnings. The positive thing is that they don't produce a difficult root system, eg a tap root, so any excess should be easily dealt with.

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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2013, 15:03 »
Thanks for the confirmation of variety, JohnB.

I can only put the short height of your borage down to water/nutrition shortage.  It would also explain the (premature) flowering, triggered by the shortage(s).

The self-sown (bless them!) should do better and come up early, as soon as soil temp is good.  I think you're right to re-evaluate this plant, because it's worked well for me as a green manure, albeit a summer-sown one, and is definitely capable of feeding your comfrey factory in a big way.

Tom
« Last Edit: October 15, 2013, 15:07 by goodtogrow »

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Re: comfrey or borage?
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2013, 15:28 »
I have borage self seeding all over my allotment from one sowing 3 years ago.  I have used it in place of comfrey in 'tea', (also made comfrey and nettle tea) and it produced a ripe smelling tea and no plants keeled over after use and they did seem a bit perkier.  The bees love it and when it's happy it produced 2 foot high plants which rotted down really well in the compost bin. 


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