how long to wait.

for my cabbage (january king) and courgettes (black)? Thanks in advance.

thats what i thought about the cabbage but surely they wont survive a winter? And the courgette plants are growing fast no veg or flowers yet though.

I think you probably just need to be patient with your cougettes...last year mine fruited through to the end of September so there's no need to worry yet. Only 2 of my 4 courgettes have flowers on at the moment, but I know that in a few weeks I'll be harvesting they daily.