Home grown Estamino seeds

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Kleftiwallah

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Home grown Estamino seeds
« on: August 25, 2020, 15:54 »
Bit breezy out there,  the underipe pears are still hitting the ground with a wallop. We have pear jelly and pear chutney to see us through the winter.

Anyway,  I tried to graft 'normal' tom's to Estamino with not a lot of success.  >:( I've allowed a couple of Estaminos to grow on and now have a few small orange fruits.  Can I use these seeds next year and try grafting again? ???

Cheers,  Tony.
I may be growing OLD, but I refuse to grow UP !

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Re: Home grown Estamino seeds
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2020, 16:53 »
Sorry, Estamino is an f1 hybrid, so you shouldn't save seeds.

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Re: Home grown Estamino seeds
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2020, 19:02 »

This word "Shouldn't"...tell me more. 

I'll explain why I grew a mustache as a for instance!  Cheers,  Tony

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Re: Home grown Estamino seeds
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2020, 19:20 »
Taking your question about "shouldn't" at face value (  ::) ), you can always save seed from an F1 but the reason you shouldn't is where you actually want the plants to come true from seed i.e. have the same variety the following year.  F1 seeds don't come true from seed.
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days all attack me at once...

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Re: Home grown Estamino seeds
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2020, 10:00 »

But, but, but,  I'm grafting another tom' onto it and then cutting off the Estamino when (or most probably if) the graft takes so it "shouldn't" matter ? ? ?

Cheers,  Tony.

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Re: Home grown Estamino seeds
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2020, 10:34 »
When they were breeding the rootstocks - they 'designed' a plant with an extra-strong root stock for you to graft on to.
If you don't grow Estamino f1 rootstocks, themselves, but grow their 'children' - they could have very different roots to the parent plant, maybe not strong at all?
Just as we are not exactly the same as our parents  ::)

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Re: Home grown Estamino seeds
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2020, 10:40 »
Thinking about it, I'm not even sure you'd get a better rootstock from a 'child of Estamino' than you would if you grew your toms on their own roots.. seems pointless to spend time grafting if you aren't sure that you are improving things.
Unless you just want to try your technique and don't expect to necessarily get better plants from your efforts. Only you know that  :lol: :lol:
« Last Edit: August 26, 2020, 10:41 by mumofstig »


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