Help for next years corn

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 13:18 »
Sorry JayG
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Picked more corn and kernels are filling out more so hanging on bit longer before picking rest of corn to freeze.


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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2013, 14:10 »
Have you read this thread about how to post pictures Chillimummy?

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2013, 14:51 »
I've just realised I all the silks had gone. I guessed this was normal as it was my first time growing corn. I am pretty sure the silks should stay on shouldn't they? And reason they disappeared?

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2013, 15:22 »
RobRob,

In response to your question:

Grow from seed, not plants, they are simple to grow and don't take up a lot of space. For the first time this year I chitted the seeds (it only took a couple of days) before transplanting them to 7cm pots at the beginning of April to grow on. I planted the first lot out at the beginning of May, 18 inches apart in all directions in a block.

I've seen it suggested that one should put them under clear plastic bottles to protect them from the cold (I didn't do that this year but it sounds like a good idea).

I also "succession sowed" planting four separate blocks two weeks apart to give a succession of cobs but also to look for the "sweet planting time". Past experience seems to show that there is a limited "perfect window" when sweetcorn gets away strongly. Before that the plants struggle and after that they don't seem to ripen as well, but when that window is varies from season to season.

I grew Golden Hind from Moles seeds this year. Seeds are inexpensive, and I averaged 1.25 cobs per plant.

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 10:25 »
I've tried to grow sweetcorn and failed miserable... they got to 18" tall last year then stopped completely  :( It must be the lovely Scottish weather. Has anyone ever grown in a greenhouse - does it work? And if it does, any special considerations?
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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2013, 10:37 »
Has anyone ever grown in a greenhouse - does it work? And if it does, any special considerations?
I grow in a greenhouse (to get an early crop). They are grown in the greenhouse borders, so same as outside really.  No wind for pollination so I hand pollinate.  Shaking the plant releases a cloud of pollen, and I then "steer" the canes as the pollen descends to manoeuvre the silks into the firing line :) to catch as much as possible.

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2013, 11:08 »
Thanks Kristen,

Unfortunately I am 'borderless' in the greenhouse. Would grow bags or large pots be ok?

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2013, 11:53 »
Sorry, don't know. They root a lot near the surface, so might be OK for bags.  probably only going to get 1 cob per plant, 1.5 at best I would think, so dunno if the cost-benefit will be very good??  :(

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2013, 22:12 »
didnt grow corn this year but my neighbour did was watching ( and be trying myself ) what he did first he grew them in loo rolls used a hole thingy for potatoes and dropped them in loo roll and seedling about a foot apart they all grew to about six foot with multiple cobs on each one he was always shaking them then they were to scared not to grow  :wacko:

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2013, 22:38 »
I've tried to grow sweetcorn and failed miserable... they got to 18" tall last year then stopped completely  :( It must be the lovely Scottish weather. Has anyone ever grown in a greenhouse - does it work? And if it does, any special considerations?

That's how tall they grow. Grow for early, fast maturing varieties. Yes, you can grow in the gh, several I know of who do, however, you will need space. At least a foot between plants too get a crop.
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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2013, 22:56 »

That's how tall they grow. .

Thats how tall they grow?? Gobs yours must be mini mini corn!! Sweetcorn grow up to 8'-10'..
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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2013, 23:06 »

That's how tall they grow. .

Thats how tall they grow?? Gobs yours must be mini mini corn!! Sweetcorn grow up to 8'-10'..

Well pointed out, I got me imperials wrong. The person is talking inches, I took it for feet or something like that.

Sorry. 6-10 feet, indeed, nearing or around 2 metres, that's what I meant, the information was wrongly computed. Thanks for correcting it.

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2013, 23:11 »
In the light of that, it's not mini corn even. 2 feet is it, or what is it in real money? No, I was more careful now, it's 45 cm by the conversion charts, meaning: no plant.

I still have no better advise though.

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Re: Help for next years corn
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2013, 08:38 »
First of all, I sow about a third too many seeds. This allows me to have extra to choose from when planting out. The more uniform the plants are when planted out, the more likely they are to be at the same stage when pollinating, which helps.
Also I like to have reasonably big plants to put out, decent little strong stems on them as opposed to smaller weaker plants. I find that sowing into 3 inch pots, then potting on to 5 inchers is the only way to get them that bit bigger.

Lots has been written about corn not liking root disturbance, and therefore using loo rolls to sow in and plant straight out. The problem with that is that they need planting out when the roots come out of the bottom, even if the weather is not right or the plants are still small.
If in pots and the roots start coming through the bottom, I just tip the plant out, and put it back in which tidys the roots back into the pot again. So long as the roots are not damaged they will grow away strongly when planted out.

Earthing the stems up a couple of times in the season helps too. The corn will root strongly from the base of the stem, meaning more nutrient uptake and plants that are much more anchored in windy conditions.
As they are reasonably shallow rooted, the patch should be fairly rich, with plenty of organic matter forked into the top layers.
You can also plant squashes and pumpkins nearby to grow through the corn blocks. The stems of the squashes will grow through the corn patch and shade the shallow roots, minimising water loss, and you will get a crop of squashes or pumpkins from it too.

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