[cbv8]

Hi All,
Does anyone know what the growth rate of this plant is or have any experience of this plant i have considered Russian Vine BUT know it can be very rampant therefore i am considering this clematis. I need a quick climber to cover my arch and fence to block out my nosey neighbours all i can find on this plant is that it is a very fast grower but how fast any advice or suggestions much appreciated 

[Goosegirl]

Just as a quick answer before my evening meal, climbing clematis loses its leaves over winter, so an evergreen plant would be best. I know of some but their growth per year will vary, also what soil it is in, how well it is planted and looked after are also major factors. Will look uo for you but see what others on here say too.

[mumofstig]

Clematis paniculata is evergreen, but it's not particularly hardy, unless you're got a sheltered spot.


http://www.britishclematis.org.uk/qa_growing.htm

[cbv8]

Thanks both for the replies firstly the soil is well drained but not very shaded so i think this variety may suffer in my garden  i am being drawn back to Russian Vine as it's so hardy but  descisions descisions   

[New shoot]

If you want a big evergreen climber you could look at Trachelospermum jasminoides or Clematis armandii.  They are both vigorous without being as crazy as Russian Vine 

[cbv8]

If you want a big evergreen climber you could look at Trachelospermum jasminoides or Clematis armandii.  They are both vigorous without being as crazy as Russian Vine 

Thanks Newshoot but i have already got two armandiii which has been in a couple of years but has never grown much i did have three but one died its only about 6ft now so need a quicker grower any more advice very much appreciated  just as a matter of interest what do you or others think about Russian vine would you avoid 

[mumofstig]

I wouldn't plant it. I know you want to something to grow quickly - but that thing never knows when to stop growing - it's monstrous 

[Yorkie]

Seriously, avoid Russian vine.  It has completely taken over the boundaries of several allotment plots ...

[GYO Girl]

If you are looking for a fast growing climber, how about a rambling rose, such as Paul's Himalayan Musk, Kiftsgate or Rambling Rector?  They are all fast growing but can be easily controlled with pruning.  Clematis montana is also a fast grower (although not evergreen).

Personally I have never had much luck with Trachelospermum, I've lost two over winter now, I don't think it's particularly hardy.

I really would avoid Russian Vine too, unless you REALLY enjoy pruning.  However, it is good for covering small buildings - like the gasworks.

[cbv8]

 However, it is good for covering small buildings - like the gasworks.
[/quote] GYO Girl i like that quote  and thanks all again for the advice i am still at a loss on what to do i have looked at Montana but as you say not evergreen but neither is Russian vine so i may try it 

[cbv8]

Hi All,
Just an update i have today gone out and bought two Clematis Montana "Warwickshire Rose" reading the descriptions of this plant i think it is exactly what i need  thank you all again for the advice and steering me in the right direction 

[Yorkie]

Well done - let us have piccies when it's flowering next year 

[cbv8]

Well done - let us have piccies when it's flowering next year 

I will do