eating grapes

I wasn't being  - just pointing out that 4 hours isn't a long time to wait on a forum 

The site policies also ask people not to bump after only a short time (I appreciate you did expand rather than simply just bump though) 

Many of our members find it irritating and rude when someone "BUMPS" their own post back to the top of the forum again, particularly after a short period.  Please bear this in mind and if your topic really has not been answered to your satisfaction try to rephrase the question or expand upon it !

Thanks, that's ok.

Or those online at the time, could be like me, like eating grapes, but not got the foggiest idea about varieties or the growing of them. 

That's really all I meant. I suspected that people wouldn't be able to comment that much on the varieties, but thought I'd just say which ones I'd chosen before I order just in case someone was going to say "Oh no, don't get that one!"  I'm sorry if it came across not quite as I had intended.

Anyway, I'll order those and we'll see how we go.

I might look at one of those varieties too. I could train it through my greenhouse.

Sounds good. And if they fail miserably we can commiserate