Worms and rotovators

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tode

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Worms and rotovators
« on: August 13, 2009, 21:42 »
I cant help wondering what effect rotavators have on the worms. When digging by hand, you cut a few in half, which supposedly doesnt kill em. But a rotavator must make mincemeat of them ????
Won't it end with no worms left?
Any ideas?
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Re: Worms and rotavators
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 22:48 »
we rotavate autumn and spring and are very wormy ;)

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Re: Worms and rotavators
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2009, 23:17 »
I cant help wondering what effect rotavators have on the worms. When digging by hand, you cut a few in half, which supposedly doesnt kill em. But a rotavator must make mincemeat of them ????
Won't it end with no worms left?
Any ideas?
Urban myth - cut 'em in half and they die. Loose soil with a high humus content and the survivors will quickly repopulate.
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Re: Worms and rotavators
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2009, 01:22 »
Minced worms is a worry but - as has been said - adding compost or laying it on the surface very soon lightens the soil and replenishes the worm population. I guess some of them are deeper down in the soil than the rotovator blades can reach.... either that or they hear the machine coming and scarper!!
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Re: Worms and rotavators
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2009, 01:39 »
you could always rotavate at a slower speed to give the critters a fighting chance , lol ,

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Re: Worms and rotavators
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2009, 01:44 »
you could always rotavate at a slower speed to give the critters a fighting chance , lol ,

My old Howard 200 doesn't go that fast to start with - mind you it does try to escape at the end of rows unless you are quick off the mark either turning or taking it out of gear!

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Re: Worms and rotavators
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2009, 08:37 »
The way our soil packs down, you'd have to give them a months notice to leave  :lol:
Last year we were in such a hurry to get started, we didnt add any compost at all. This year will try to get as much in as possible.

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Re: Worms and rotavators
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2009, 12:09 »
As my mate Shaun would say, they hear it coming and duck they little heads.
Punk isn't dead...it's underground where it belongs. If it comes to the surface it's no longer punk...it's Green Day!

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Re: Worms and rotavators
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2009, 22:27 »
Compost, compost, compost - worms and rotovators love it!!

It's gradually turing my new half-plot clay-pit into reasonable soil.  ;)

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Re: Worms and rotavators
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2009, 23:29 »
There is the no-dig method where you just pile the compost on top of the plot and let the worms do their thing as they drag the good stuff down and create a good tilth for plating in.

I have tried this with both clay and sandy soil with great success as you are not upsetting the soil structure every year, though the soil is good for planting seedlings into but not so good for some finer seeds.

Saves a lot of back ache though - I haven't owned a spade for some years just a good fork and trowel.

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Re: Worms and rotovators
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 08:46 »
Great stuff compost, but last year I put a good 3 inches of council cmpost round my roses and it was catastrophic  :ohmy:
The stems on about 3/4 of them started going black, and the strong new growths just wilted and died away !  Lost about 6 rose bushes completely  :mad:
Looked like really good stuff, too.
So now Im putting a lot of effort into making my own, but in the meantime the new veg patch is more like concrete than than the sort of stuff that Adam the Gardener would have.
Just as well I didnt put round my blackcurrants  :)

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Re: Worms and rotovators
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2009, 17:50 »
As my mate Shaun would say, they hear it coming and duck they little heads.

We must have some wild ones, they ride the tines!

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