[mdjlucan]

is this a Autumn or summer rosemary cane

[Aunt Sally]

If those buds are on shoots that have grown up from the ground this year they are autumn raspberries.

[mdjlucan]

* they are amongst summer Rasburys growing for next year how do I get around this thanks

[simonwatson]

I think I'd just pull it our after its fruited, trying to get the roots as best you can. They should be easy to tell from the summer ones and you'll still be able to see the remains of the fruit/flower stalks.