Onions - things where going so well

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Italian Bob.

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Onions - things where going so well
« on: June 23, 2013, 16:04 »
Afternoon

My onions all seem to have gone mouldy Reds Whites the lot ,

Just week ago they looked great all  tall green and swelling

Went down to he plot today and notice a few had fell over , then check the rest there and he roots have all  died and i could lift out with out a tug .

Removed the lot

I looked thought them and out of 90 or so onions only a few where mould free

I gave them very little water as i always do .. But the other day we had very heavyshower and i thing this is what may of been part of the problem at least

Any ideas guy and girls ?

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2013, 16:33 »
any white mould on the base ?
I cook therefore I grow

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2013, 16:58 »
Sounds like white rot. If so, it is in the soil so you did not do anything wrong. How long have you been growing onions in that area?

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Italian Bob.

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2013, 18:24 »
Yes white mould

I have never grown onions on this bit before its a new plot

Does this mean I shouldn't grow onion on this again ?

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2013, 18:26 »
I think the old timers at my site have a permanent onion bed, i have rotated them and think that is best.
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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2013, 18:36 »
So sorry to hear of your plight.
I have an area on my plot where there is a small problem with white rot and my first planting had a few losses.
I have avoided the area ever since as the problem can remain in the soil for some years, and touch wood I have had no problems since.

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Sparkyrog

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2013, 18:42 »
Yes white mould

I have never grown onions on this bit before its a new plot

Does this mean I shouldn't grow onion on this again ?

Thanks

Avoid that spot with onions for 8 years some say 7 but I go for caution ,hope that is of help to you :)

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Italian Bob.

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2013, 18:44 »
Thanks all ,

I suppose I could plant all those spare plants now , Silver linings and all that

Would Tomatoes , Cucumbers or even beans  be affected by white mould ?


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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2013, 21:09 »
It won't affect other vegetables, except similar ones like leeks and garlic.
One treatment, which is supposed to work, is to soak uninfected onions or garlic in water and water the infected area with it. The idea is that the mould spores sense the presence of the onion smell and wake up and look for onions to infect, but there are none, so they die.
It may be worth trying.
The other option is to plant them somewhere else.

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seaside

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2013, 21:23 »
I think the old timers at my site have a permanent onion bed, i have rotated them and think that is best.

Interesting that.  I rotate brassicas and potatoes to give a 4 year cycle and allow certain fertilising,  but I have always been less than convinced on that imperative with the alliums and legumes in a disease sense...   Quite a few people here also have a semi-permanent bean trench/bed.

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2013, 21:31 »
I think the old timers at my site have a permanent onion bed, i have rotated them and think that is best.

Interesting that.  I rotate brassicas and potatoes to give a 4 year cycle and allow certain fertilising,  but I have always been less than convinced on that imperative with the alliums and legumes in a disease sense...   Quite a few people here also have a semi-permanent bean trench/bed.
I know people who have grown beans in the same spot for 30 yrs lol ! All I can say on the onion topic is I can grow on one side of my garden not the other ! and its only an 18" concrete path which seperates

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2013, 21:32 »
The Japanese winter ones should soon be ready, but I was a little concerned that the spring sets didn't seem to be doing so well.  However, the little * have gone mad the last week or so.  Worries averted :)


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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2013, 21:50 »
The Japanese winter ones should soon be ready, but I was a little concerned that the spring sets didn't seem to be doing so well.  However, the little * have gone mad the last week or so.  Worries averted :)
The japanese although good for flavour do not store well .

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Re: Onions - things where going so well
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2013, 22:54 »
The Japanese winter ones should soon be ready, but I was a little concerned that the spring sets didn't seem to be doing so well.  However, the little * have gone mad the last week or so.  Worries averted :)
The japanese although good for flavour do not store well .

Cheers

Luckily we go through a shed load of onions all the time, so hopefully we can use them before the rot sets in.  They'll keep us going until the spring ones are ready :)


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