Growing with obstruction

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chasechicken

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Growing with obstruction
« on: June 17, 2011, 14:58 »
Hi all..

We have a flower bed in the garden which is surrounded on two sides by an old stone wall.  The concrete foundation of the wall isn't very deep and so I wonder if we'll be able to grow foxgloves, as planned, along the wall.  There's probably only about 6-8" of soil before the concrete, which comes out a good foot from the wall itself.  Will the roots find a way, or will the small plants just die when it hits the concrete and doesn't know where to go?

Also, I worry that if the roots do find a way they'll either make it harder to grow things in front of them, or (less likely I'm sure) damage the wall.

Any thoughts?

We have considered getting some large pots but this is not ideal..

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Growing with obstruction
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 16:48 »
Well foxglove runs a tap root so as you say the soil doesn't sound deep enough, however, being a tap root it could well be strong enough to find a way around your footings if it had to. You would need to leave some space for the plants to grow towards the wall, so they would need to be a certain distance out to start with.

I think it could be worth a try.

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Re: Growing with obstruction
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 17:09 »
I let foxgloves selfseed ON a stone wall that is on one side of the garden.They grow in the little soil thats between the stones and do quite well and are beautiful so your'e situation should be a doddle for them

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Re: Growing with obstruction
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 17:31 »
That's great - thanks for the encouragement - it's worth a try at least I guess, and it's not like they're precious little things that die if the wind blows above a couple of knots!

I may just give it a go then - worst case we'll revert to plan b... which has yet to be decided.......

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Re: Growing with obstruction
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 17:43 »
Yes - foxgloves should do ok. I have them self-seeding under a very large Sycamore tree in dry shade. Also, if you look at the tap roots of some dandelions, they can be bent due to growing towards where the moisture is, though I don't think they have a tap root as far as I know.
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Re: Growing with obstruction
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 19:04 »
Quote ehow.com:

".........foxglove is not easy to transplant, due to its extended tap roots".

Other sites on the internet, contain this information.

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Re: Growing with obstruction
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2011, 17:13 »
Quote ehow.com:

".........foxglove is not easy to transplant, due to its extended tap roots".

Other sites on the internet, contain this information.

I start all my cultivated foxgloves in a tray and prick them out into 3inch pots ,grow them on for a month /6 weeks and then plant in final planting position and they do well

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Re: Growing with obstruction
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2011, 17:16 »
Sion, the quote was made in relation to a remark about the plant not having a tap root. ;) Nothing to do with transplanting it....

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Re: Growing with obstruction
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2011, 09:11 »
Thanks all - I'll give it a go and report back (if I remember!!)



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