[shokkyy]

I sowed Ormskirk last year, albeit late (they're still not ready), but this year I wanted to try one or two other varieties, hopefully to cover a longer season. I prefer savoys, preferably not too big, and a couple of varieties that have caught my eye are F1 Samantha for autumn harvest and Bloemendaaise Gele for winter. Anybody tried these? If so, were they any good?

[mumofstig]

I've tried Samantha, which are a quite small and pointy savoy-type. The do not stand hard weather, so definitely to be eaten in the Autumn, and they are not dark green like the other savoys....if that's any help?

[gobs]

I am also partial to Savoys. That Samantha sounds like a summer savoy. I do not know the variety, but you could try sowing it early for summer cropping.

I grow a variety that is ready in June/July, I can send you a few seeds to try, if you want.

[bazial]

I have grown Samantha for 2yrs now and we have 5 on the allotment at the moment,I know it's not that cold yet but we had they into January last year .a lovely  tasting Savoy just the right size for 2/3 people.

[shokkyy]

Thanks for that info. It sounds like Samantha would follow on into Bloemendaalse quite well, so maybe I'll give them both a go.

Gobs - thanks for the seed offer, that's very kind of you but I don't really want cabbage for summer, just for autumn/winter. Most years I tend to be disappearing under a pile of peas, beans and courgettes all through summer, so I save the brassicas for late autumn/winter and try to eat the veg fresh, as much as possible.

[gobs]

Thanks for that info. It sounds like Samantha would follow on into Bloemendaalse quite well, so maybe I'll give them both a go.

Gobs - thanks for the seed offer, that's very kind of you but I don't really want cabbage for summer, just for autumn/winter. Most years I tend to be disappearing under a pile of peas, beans and courgettes all through summer, so I save the brassicas for late autumn/winter and try to eat the veg fresh, as much as possible.

You are all right.

[cooperman]

If you get the last "Garden News" (a weekly newspaper) they have a comprehensive section on cabbages...

[compostqueen]

I have Samantha in the garden and plot now and it seems to have stood just fine.  They are very compact, which is why I grew them, and one cabbage is fine for two or three people

[shokkyy]

That's exactly what I was looking for, because I'm also only feeding two people. When did you sow/plant out to get them standing until now? And what spacing did you use?

[compostqueen]

I'll have a look at my notes. The spacings for the plants can be very close as they take no room up at all 

Be right back 

[compostqueen]

6th June and then potted them into modules for planting out. I planted some at the plot and some at home. Not looked at the plot ones for a while but the ones at home are looking well.  I think you could stagger the sowing and planting so you don't get a glut, like I have 

[shokkyy]

Thanks, that sounds ideal.