[Lardman]

Anyone grown these before ? They seem to be growing extremely vigorously outpacing everything else I've sown, even the rootstock Id intended to graft them onto 

[Fairy Plotmother]

I am waiting for my seeds to poke their heads out!  not grown them before but they seemed interesting!

[JohnB47]

Anyone grown these before ? They seem to be growing extremely vigorously outpacing everything else I've sown, even the rootstock Id intended to graft them onto 

By coincidence I decided to add a Black Russian and a Cherokee to my set just today. I would be interested in what people think of these. Eg do they grow as cordons or bush - the label doesn't say. Hope you dont mind me expanding your thread Lardman.

[sunshineband]

They are cordon's John, and very vigorous too - mine did well outside btw two seasons back

[surbie100]

I did last year and they tried to take over my little culticave! Lovely tomatoes, even if some split.

Tomato moth loved them almost as much as I did though...

[JohnB47]

They are cordon's John, and very vigorous too - mine did well outside btw two seasons back

Thanks. Mine are outside too - at a south facing wall, so here's hoping.

[DD.]

Mine did better outside than inside. I found the ones in the greenhouse prone to botrytis.

[agapanthus]

They are  a lovely tasting tomato....I think most of the black varieties are a lot tastier than others

[Dopey113]

I am growing them this year, on recommendation from you guys on the forum, for taste, looks like I did the right thing, have about 20 of them so far, and there all growing well and look healthy, have about 80 toms of different variety this year all old school type (heritage)

[Madame Cholet]

Grew some last year They were huge and tasty outside need really good support though.

[SusieB]

I too have bought Black Russian after reading recommendations on this site.  Can somebody give me an idea for a good support for them?  I'm guessing a bamboo cane is not enough.  Will I be able to wind the cordon round a bamboo tripod?

[Headgardener22]

I grew these last year, they were OK, nothing special in quantity (though nice flavour) Cherokee Purple did much better (2kgs of fruit from a single plant). :-)

[DD.]

I would expect way more than 2 kg of fruit from one plant!

[Trillium]

Over here, they're grown as bushes. The fruit can be so heavy that usually 2 stakes are needed, one each side of centre.

[Headgardener22]

I would expect way more than 2 kg of fruit from one plant!

So what do you expect? I've asked the question before and got no answer.