Can pheasants breed with hens???

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Can pheasants breed with hens???
« on: March 04, 2011, 19:45 »
My hens free-range and there are a few pheasants about as I am surrounded by fields. One of the chicks I hatched last year looks very different from the others. Without wishing to sound really silly.....can a cock pheasant mate with a hen?  :blush:
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Re: Can pheasants breed with hens???
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2011, 20:47 »
Hmmmm........looks like I may have a Phicken ?!?  ::)  or maybe a phantom lol  Will get some piccies on see what you think.  :blink:

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Re: Can pheasants breed with hens???
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 21:29 »
Ooooh scary!!!!!   :D :D

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Re: Can pheasants breed with hens???
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2011, 21:39 »
Much as I love the idea of a phicken or a phantom I'm not sure it's possible.  I remember listening to one of the homework questions on Simon Mayo or Radio 2 that asked a similar type question.
The person who answered the question explained that it is not possible for different species to successfully produce offspring even if they do manage to mate. 

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Re: Can pheasants breed with hens???
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2011, 21:56 »
according to this
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/45/4/183.abstract
very few chicks would hatch and live, and they are infertile.

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Re: Can pheasants breed with hens???
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2011, 01:05 »
The farmer next to us rears 10000 pheasants for shoots and pheasants are the most common birds in our garden.  They often visit the chicken run to steal food but I've never seen them attempt to mate and in fact the chickens usually just ignore them or chase them away.  

I've had around 30 chickens every year in the past 10 and there's never a day goes by without I see several pheasants visit the runs so I reckon if I don't get matings no one will.  I think this must be a very rare occurance and to have a chick hatch and survive another rare occurance so I suspect you're looking at something like a 1 in a 1000 year event to get a hatchling by chance.

In the experiment of 1400 inseminations in the link only 3 live hatched so approx 1in 500 matings produced a hatchling (0.2%).  Also of the 100 to 200 eggs you get from each hen in a year how many are incubated/ brooded?  In my case I rarely hatch more than 15 chx a year from a total egg count of say 20 hens laying 150 eggs each so 3000 eggs.  So I hatch 0.5% of my eggs so even if I had a mating and it produced a fertile egg I would only have a 0.5% chance of selecting it for hatching and then only 0.2% will hatch.  So to get a good chance of one phicken hatching I'd need to have something like 100000 matings.  I've no idea how many matings occur per year and as I've said I've never seen one in 10 years and I keep 30 chx within a few hundred metres of 10000 pheasants.  If I assumed 100 (which is on the very high side I would think) that's a 1000years of hatching to produce one phicken by chance.

I guess what I'm saying is the probability of this being a chance hatchling from a stray mating is very remote so I suspect this is unlikely to be a phicken.

Of course probability doesn't quite work like that and it could happen in the next batch I hatch as likely as the 1000 batch I hatch.  Why not post a photo and we can all havea speculation! :D

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« Last Edit: March 05, 2011, 01:10 by hillfooter »
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Re: Can pheasants breed with hens???
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2011, 06:34 »
As rare as it is, it has been recorded on several occasions. Chicken X Guinea Fowl is more common.
Within the British bird fancy there is a section for mules ( British finch X canary) and hybrids (British finch X British finch). Usually it is a cock British finch X canary except for the Bully mule which has only ever produced young from a canary cock X Bullfinch hen. Goldie mules and hybrids are the most common.
The Red Factor canary is a fertile hybrid, Black Hooded Red Siskin X canary, the males of this crossing being fertile and back crossed to canary.

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Re: Can pheasants breed with hens???
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2011, 19:51 »
I am struggling to upload a decent photo of Squeak but will keep trying. have a new development though. Millie one of my first hatchlings so she is now 10 months does like to wander. Last week she was misssing a few days so I feared the worst. Then she turned up and disappeared again next day. This morning she wandered back into the paddock with a striking young cock pheasant with mainly cream markings as opposed to the usual brown/rust colour. the pheasant stayed outside while Millie had something to eat and went in to lay, then she wandered off to join him again!! Strange liaison, but how do I stop her doing this?  :unsure:

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Re: Can pheasants breed with hens???
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2011, 19:55 »
Sounds like your chooks enjoy partying and have their males wrapped around their little toes!  ::)
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Re: Can pheasants breed with hens???
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2011, 20:30 »
I am struggling to upload a decent photo of Squeak but will keep trying. have a new development though. Millie one of my first hatchlings so she is now 10 months does like to wander. Last week she was misssing a few days so I feared the worst. Then she turned up and disappeared again next day. This morning she wandered back into the paddock with a striking young cock pheasant with mainly cream markings as opposed to the usual brown/rust colour. the pheasant stayed outside while Millie had something to eat and went in to lay, then she wandered off to join him again!! Strange liaison, but how do I stop her doing this?  :unsure:
why do you want to stop her, she's obviously in love :D


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