New girl has had her eye pecked very badly what should I bathe it in...

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Pixieswift

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Been a while since I was last on here but I am still chicken crazy and love all my babies. The problem is have is this - The farmer where I live has chickens maybe 8 and tends to let them get on with it, I look after them more than them, to them they are disposable and it breaks my heart as mine are so loved and spoiled.
Situation is I found ginger (they have no name, again I name them) a beautiful little Isa Brown, such a gentle soul. I have not seen her for a couple of days and she appeared at my back door this morning looking very frightened so I scooped her up to give her a cuddle and what a shock. I think the other girls have practically pecked her eye out, lots of blood on feathers and a jammed shut eye full of blood looking very sore. It broke my heart to leave her but I HAD to go to work. I have informed the farmers wife saying she would need to bathe her eye and separate her for a while until it heals she said it's easier to just kill it ARGH how heartless you would just kill a dog if it had a poorly eye, this can not happen as she can heal and even if she has no eyes she can still have a good quality of life. I'm hoping they have not killed her whilst I am at work as I will take her and help her, even though my babies will probably do the same to her as a new comer on her own. I do have a spare house and could make a big run as all of mine free range I would need to mend her first before she could join them. Anyway sorry for the waffle just wanted to give some background. I need advise on what to bathe the eye with as they would never take her to the vet or help her in anyway I shall do it. Someone suggested salt water but OUCH that's gonna sting any other recommendations baring in mind it is her eye, thanks you.

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Tears are salty , natural eyewash but i am in agreement with the farmers wife that culling it may be the most humane option.

Far too many times nowdays the 'save at all costs' policy  results  in the animal suffering.

If you are willing to pay vets fees i should think it would be ok with the farmer.

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Hi 8doubles
Thank you for your reply and I DON'T agree with 'save at all costs' that's rather silly to let any animal suffer it is very very wrong and I know the point at which an animal should be culled as I have a very small small holding. When you take an animal it is up to you to care for it and this is something which can be mended it just takes time and patience and a chicken can live a perfectly normal and happy life with only one eye so the idea of 'just killing it' seems like a very easy way to solve the problem but so unfair on the chicken. I shall take her and look after her myself, I have bought some non medicated eye bath which I shall bathe Gingers eye with tonight and separate her from the flock. Hopefully this will work and we shall have a wonderfully healthy little girl at the end of this, breaks my heart how people are so quick to cull.
Thank you for your reply.
Emma.

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Hi Pixieswift.  Salt water might be very cleansing, but I think she probably needs urgent pain relief, swiftly followed by antibiotics and a medicated eyewash.  You will need a vet for that, but if you are happy to do this, she does stand a good chance and she will manage fine with just one eye. 

If this is an existing member of the flock that the others have turned on, it may be she is already ill and they sense this.  I'm not trying to be negative, just warning you that she may just turn up her toes and that you shouldn't feel that was your fault.

Let us know how you get on  :)

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Thank you New Shoot

Ginger has just been introduced to the existing flock a few weeks ago with another 2 hens introduced at the same time, they to seemed to have turned on her...!!!
She seems happy and healthy, just excluded, obviously she is not happy and healthy now. I spend a lot of time with my own chickens and no instantly as soon as one is feeling under the weather even when they try and hide it...!!
As Ginger does not belong to me it's harder for me to see how the others are with her but she was very scared this morning and cowered so soon as another hen even looked at her.
I shall Evaluate the situation tonight and see how badly she is injured and of ourse bathe her eye, do you think salt water would be better, won't it really hurt her...???
Willing to give it a go of you think it would be best, I shall keep her with me tonight and see how she is in the morning. I do have some metacam which was prescribed for another poorly chicken which I had (she was very old 7 in fact) I could syringe some of this into her mouth to ease her pain somewhat, do you think this would be ok...or is that a No No the animal hospital did say it could be used on other chickens...!!!
I will keep you updated, thank you 🐓

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A mild salt solution should be OK, but you will soon know whether she is happy to let you go ahead or not.  It used to be the norm for doctors to tell patients to use salt baths to heal up operation scars and keep them clean, though I am sure things have moved on now  ;)

I've never used Metacam, but others on here have.  If you do a search, quite a few threads come up, but I thought this one might be helpful to you.  There are warnings on here about overdosing, so be careful.

http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=63917.msg732375#msg732375

Maybe give her this first and see if she relaxes enough to let you bathe the eye?  It will give some pain relief and that must be good form the poor hen.  Eyes do get infected very easily though, so you will need to keep a careful check on her.  Salt water will only do so much.

Good luck with it all.  I hope she perks up for you  :)

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Agree New Shoot. Salt water still used for cleaning wounds in the NHS. The trick is not to use too strong a solution as this could do more damage. Salt solution is ok for eyes and as New Shoot says a mild solution. Metacam is an anti inflammatory and painkiller and if it is still in date and used within the limited time following opening I don't see why you should not try it, especially as prescribed for a hen previously. Good luck.  :)
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I took my chooks to the vet for things like this.  It could be serious.  I got a good service, it wasn't expensive for painkillers and antibiotics plus expert consultation.  I invested in my hens so it made sense to look after them.   The reassurance was priceless ☺

There ia a sticky on here with the recommended  poultry vets as suggested by folks here with experience of the vets listed.I hope your girl will be better soon ☺


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Talk to the farmer to see if he will let you have the hen, if he will that is great and you can look after the hen by quarantining her as there might be an underlying problem which you have not seen. If it is an ill bird and contagious would you cull or pay a vet to cull?
If not, you will need to accept the farmers decision, farmers round here which keep hens for eggs and meat would cull a picked on hen and then eat it.

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I took my chooks to the vet for things like this.  It could be serious.  I got a good service, it wasn't expensive for painkillers and antibiotics plus expert consultation.  I invested in my hens so it made sense to look after them.   The reassurance was priceless ☺

There ia a sticky on here with the recommended  poultry vets as suggested by folks here with experience of the vets listed.I hope your girl will be better soon ☺

I have no hesitation in paying a vet although the ones where I live no nothing about chickens, I know more than them...!!!
My last little girl Gladys whom sadly died ran up a vet bill for over £200.00 and an overnight stay in the little animal hospital where they specialise in chickens and I would do it al over again but this little girl is not mine so I am doing my best to treat her and to stop the farmer from culling her, he has given me a week to make her better....!!!
I did say that this little girl is not mine

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Thank you for all of the advise, I have used saltwater as an eyepatch before as saline is basically salt and water I use 1 teaspoon of table salt to 1 cup of boiled water and let it rest until tepid. The farmer has given me a little time with Ginger to try and help her, so last night she had a salt eye bath with a sterile pad and syringe to put the solution into her eye. She was so good didn't even flinch she just cuddled in, such a sweet, gentle nature. I created a new space for her, still with the other girls but just so they couldn't get to her but they could still see each other. I don't want to speak to soon but what an improvement this morning when I bathed it again it was now half open and she was running around chasing her treats and looking very pleased with herself. I let them all out to free range together whilst keeping an eye on her and she stuck with the group, I didn't want to keep them apart as it makes it harder for her to be reintroduced back into the group so she would be worse off. None of them seemed to bother her and even though I had to come to work they have many acres to free range so she can get away if need be. Tonight I will separate her again and do an eye bath as I think it happened on the morning whilst they were in there house. I don't want to count my chickens to soon but I'm hoping for another improvement tomorrow.
I gave her a tiny dose of metacam and she looked very settled and not in any pain she just wanted extra cuddles. I will keep you updated and thanks for all of your kind replys...Emma

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Fingers crossed! :)

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Ive used golden eye antibiotic cream(that i think is usually for cats ect) on horses not sure for hens but it might be worth a google and obviously only a  tiny dosage would be needed if it could be used
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What happened in the end pixieswift. Is she still with you.

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I rescued a Buff Orpington Cockerel who had scaly legs and bumble foot. He had also been attacked by another cockerel and had a badly injured eye. A trip to the vets and £50 later it could not be saved so a further £50 to remove it....... I know, I know. He has survived and is a big pussy cat, having only one eye does not cause him any problems, at least I can sneak up on that side to pick him up,  and has fathered several more generations  but in hindsight I don't think I would spend that kind of money again,(my partner definitely would not let me) I was kind of put on the spot and to be honest I am a big softy.  I then had a Cream Legbar with an eye infection and I used Neosporin, an antibiotic you can buy on Amazon, not cheap  but it did the trick.  Hope things work out.... :)



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