HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill

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mikeashworth

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I'm a new allotmenteer (if thats even the right word to use) and popped up the allotment today to see how the hardy varieties of broad beans and peas had faired during the redent cold spell (snow in my area, coventry) and to start preparing parts of the plot for planting.

was shocked to discover state of broad beans and peas. looked at nearby plots and their's seem similar too. a cpl of weeks ago the broad beans were looking pretty good and i was about to start putting some supports in the ground for them.

plot: fairly exposed. wind does whip across it a bit from east to west.

soil: clay

I wonder if they've got some kind of infestation? maybe should have been cloched? or just couldnt cope with snow / rain / cold despite being called "hardy"??

what do you think? if you need any other info, please let me know.

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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 15:22 »
Photos are not very big, but pound to a penny, that's frost damage.

Peas in particular are vulnerable and seem hardly worth the effort to keep them going over winter to gain a few weeks, (maybe).

« Last Edit: February 15, 2012, 15:24 by DD. »
Did it really tell you to do THAT on the packet?

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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 15:24 »
Photo are not very big, but pound to a penny, that's frost damage.

hiya, unfortunately i couldnt post any bigger photos.

what a nightmare, guess i should have cloched them. its all learnings i guess.

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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 17:12 »
Just plant some more in a couple of weeks - they'll probably catch up.
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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 17:22 »
hey, my broad beans didn't make it thought the cold snap either, but my peas did i covered them with some old 2lt coke bottles with the bottoms cut of which i save from last year seems to of worked fine.
I was also told to plant some over the winter to get an early crop, might not bother next year but hey being a beginner myself it's all a learning curve.  :)
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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012, 17:29 »
I agree with all that its probably the cold weather that caused the damage. As DD commented it doesn't seem worth the effort for what you achieve especially with peas. Some people have success with overwintering broad beans but again I don't bother and just get them in during early spring and then provide protection during the odd cold spell. Definitely re-sow when the weather / ground is fit or sow some in pots under glass now in readiness for planting out in a few weeks time.

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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2012, 20:27 »
When autumn/winter starts looming and there is not alot left to sow in the garden, it can seem like a good idea to sow peas or broad beans. The promise of early crops and hardy plants are often enough to guide people into trying to nurture a few plants through. In reality though it is alot of hassle to look after these plants for the whole winter. As DD said, your crop will only be a few weeks earlier (if the winter weather has not savaged your plants) and in my opinion NONE  of the overwintering variety's taste anything like as good as the spring sown.

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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 20:30 »
thanks for your advise folks. for future reference what veg would you recommend are worth nurturing over the winter period?



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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2012, 20:39 »
Garlic, but don't need too much nurturing, and overwintering onions.

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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2012, 20:50 »
dont be in a rush to plant out or try to beat mother nature she will always win..

broad beans.. ok  try and get a autumn planting to get a earlier crop but later sowing will catch up them up  and only a couple of weeks difference  i sow mine in toilet roll tubes in the greenhouse jan / feb and plant out in the allotment come march....after the major frosts have gone..

peas  the ground is not ready yet  it has to be warm enough not to set them back 

frost will damage both or lack of ventilation  if in a polytunnel...
keep it organic and you will see the difference including taste......

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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 00:08 »
The broad beans look to me as though they can recover so do not be in a hurry to pull them up. Even if there are gaps it will not matter.

You could well find that the plants send out new shoots from the bottom.


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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 16:08 »
you've all been really helpful, thankyou so much :-)

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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 20:19 »
thanks for your advise folks. for future reference what veg would you recommend are worth nurturing over the winter period?




Sprouts and parsnips sown the prevoius spring. If it is going to be very frosty it pays to dig up some parsnips before the frost gets into the soil.

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Re: HELP: visited plot today: broad beans, peas, looking very ill
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2012, 20:20 »
Currently harvesting carrots, parsnips, swede, cabbage, celeriac, spring onions, sprouts & purple sprouting.


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