Pyracantha for a hedge near wall

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Pyracantha for a hedge near wall
« on: September 20, 2011, 19:45 »
I like privet, but whilst out-and-about, making special effort to observe what folks were using as hedges, I noticed a nice-looking plant with orange berries. I've since discovered that I was observing pyracantha.  I see you can obtain with orange, red or yellow berries.  I'm not sure if it's okay to mix these in a hedge.

My stepped wall (I live on a slope) is adjacent to the public pavement, and is about 18" high.

Seems a good choice as a hedge to give some sort of privacy and a sense of a barrier between my front garden and the street.  I think it will need constant pruning. I want it to form a dense hedge, to overhang the 18" high wall, which is about 8" wide, and then rise to about 3' 6" to 4'.

Not sure how far from the wall it should be planted. I'm guessing about 6". Hopefully not a danger to children.




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Re: Pyracantha for a hedge near wall
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 19:49 »
I would plant it a little further from the wall, about twelve inches, so that the roots get enough space on both sides.  :)

Other than that, it will make a good hedge and if it is pruned regularly to keep long growths away from the pavement edge will not cause a problem.

You can get several varities with different colour berries if you wanted a rainbow effect from the berries   :D
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Re: Pyracantha for a hedge near wall
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 23:31 »
A good strong-growing plant. I've got several round the garden and they can grow very high. White blossom attracts the insects and berries look wonderful in the Autumn before the birds get them. And it's evergreen too.
They do have nasty long thorns but perhaps you can find a thornless one for next to the pavement. (Although it will stop anyone trying to get through!!!)

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Re: Pyracantha for a hedge near wall
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 13:54 »
Mixed berry colours should be a lovely display in autumn. Yes - give it a bit more room by the wall. They are tough shrubs and grow big if un-checked but can be trained into espalier, fan and pillar shapes, and they produce more berries that way too. Cut off any breastwood (the stems/ branches sticking out toward you and/ or at the back) to make a flatter shape if needed. Good burglar deterrent too - Ow!! :D
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Re: Pyracantha for a hedge near wall
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 09:02 »
You can get orange, yellow (or light orange) and red berries. But, I do not suppose you can get each with same leaves, etc.  Nice if you could. I must check that out.

Also, holly would be good as well, if folks don't tend to steal it at Christmastime!

I'm checking out thornless pyracantha.  Might be a good choice. ( I see Pyracantha ‘Watereri’ is mostly thornless).
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Re: Pyracantha for a hedge near wall
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 23:04 »
Before I had my own pyracantha I used to pinch big bunches of berries for Christmas decs in the dead of night from our local Sainsbury car park hedges.
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Re: Pyracantha for a hedge near wall
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2011, 10:34 »
You can get orange, yellow (or light orange) and red berries. But, I do not suppose you can get each with same leaves, etc.  Nice if you could. I must check that out.

I only want nature to be accommodating, by presenting me a plant with exactly the same leaves and berries, but different colours on the berries. :c)

I don't think it is possible though with pyrocantha. Unless someone knows different.

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Re: Pyracantha for a hedge near wall
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011, 17:23 »
I always thought the leaves were the same on all the varieties,  but to be sure why not pop along to a garden centre and have a look, if you are really worried.

A mixed hedge would be lovely you could even add a bit of variegated privet to add some brightness year round. Holly makes a great hedge but you are in for a longer wait for berries with holly than with pyracantha as it is a lot slower.

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Re: Pyracantha for a hedge near wall
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2011, 18:21 »
I always thought the leaves were the same on all the varieties,  but to be sure why not pop along to a garden centre and have a look, if you are really worried.


We have three slightly different coloured berries - the leaves are very similar only difference is a slight variation in depth of green on ours. (Is there a varigated leaf? Not sure - probably not)

The thorns are very sharp and you really would need to keep a close check on it. Trim back to in-line with the boundary wall so no one is stabbed or scratched as they walk by. (If they attempt to clamber over - though luck on them!) Prune back after flowering avoiding newly forming berries.

Older plants might attract a fungus (a sort of grey mold) on the stems. I'm not sure if it's too wet / dry or hot that causes it but ours have grown through this. They are as tough as old rope and can be cut back very hard if needed.

Fire Thorn is a more natural form I believe and bright red as the name suggests.
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Birds love the berries.  ;)
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