Thornless Blackberry

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Thornless Blackberry
« on: August 04, 2011, 00:14 »
I bought a thornless blackberry plant early this year from Wilkinson shop. but now found there are thorns growing on the vines?

Am I cheated?

anyone have the thornless blackberry plant? what is your one look like please?
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Trillium

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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 04:24 »
Yes, you were cheated. There shouldn't be any thorns.

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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 07:01 »
afraid so,i was given a cutting last month,no thorns

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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 09:17 »
I got done like the op, bought three bushes and one is full of thorns now ! but come the winter it will be replaced.

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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 13:42 »
I think sometimes the thornless bit is grafted onto a normal bramble root, so you can get some thorny suckers from a thornless variety (I do on my massive thornless bush). Perhaps the thornless bit has died and only the bramble bit is alive?

CORRECTION - I looked this up an wikipedia and it looks like its not grafted, it's the plant reverting back to its natural condition - apparently the inside of the stem is genetically thorny and the outside is genetically thornless!

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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 13:36 »
I had the same thing happen to me with a Wilkinsons thornless bramble.

The first years growth had thorns on it.
The second years growth didn't.

The plant produces thorny stems when stressed, first planted (etc) once established it is absolutely fine.

Mine are now all thornless and producing very heavily

Just give them until next year before replacing them and i think you will be pleasently surprised  ;)

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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 17:27 »
I have just cut off  the thorny branches and left the roots, hoping something thornless come out next. I might have killed it off, not sure! wish I read your post before cutting it. thanks everyone

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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 19:43 »
All sounds very odd  :ohmy:

If my thornless one starts to grow thorny stems I shall cut them off too I think  :)
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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 21:40 »
No thorns at all on my 2 thornless plants,but the branches are very weak,you can`t bend them round to be tied pointing anywhere else :(

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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 08:59 »
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If my thornless one starts to grow thorny stems I shall cut them off too I think 

Don't

Just let them grow for a year and next year they'll grow thornless.
If you cut them back now they will produce nore thorny shoots as you will be stressing them.

Cut them back in the Autum/Winter when they have died back.

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Re: Thornless Blackberry
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 09:01 »
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If my thornless one starts to grow thorny stems I shall cut them off too I think 

Don't

Just let them grow for a year and next year they'll grow thornless.
If you cut them back now they will produce nore thorny shoots as you will be stressing them.

Cut them back in the Autum/Winter when they have died back.


Thanks for that Stompy.

So far they are both OK (one moved from my Dad's garden and cut back hard so just has this year's growth, and one bought for £1.99 in Aldi in the Spring, which has growths on it about 6-8ft long)
I'll know what to do if they revolt  :lol:


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