[chili]

hi all.
is there a type of pea,sugarsnap,mangetout that grows like a runner bean plant?

[shokkyy]

Yes, I'm trying some for the first time this year. I'm doing Mangetout Carouby De Muasanne, Pea Alderman and Pea Sugar Snap. That's one of each type, and all grow to 5' or 6'.

[chili]

many thanks for the info m8

[Ma and Pa Snip]

We tried Alderman for the first time last year. 

The area we grew them in was in slight shade but even so we were extrememly pleased with the crop result.

[lucywil]

i grew alderman last year and did not get the result i hoped for, i found that they did not grow up the canes like runner beans which is waht i was hoping for, i kept having to tie them in to stop them falling off the canes, going to go back to smaller ones this year.

[scousemouse]

That's interesting.  I just bought some T&M Pea Alderman and I've never grown them before so I'm looking forward to seeing how they grow. 

Our site's very windy, so we have to shelter the seedlings when they're planted out until they get going.  I'd like to grow peas up a wigwam, so Alderman sounds like a good choice.

[JayG]

Where's pea-god DD when you need him? 

Surely peas don't climb in the same way that runner beans do (that's not to say there are no tall varieties but they hold themselves up using tendrils rather than winding themselves round the support.)

I would have thought that peas would need some help climbing bean poles, which is why twiggy sticks or pea netting is often used instead? 

[lucywil]

Where's pea-god DD when you need him? 

Surely peas don't climb in the same way that runner beans do (that's not to say there are no tall varieties but they hold themselves up using tendrils rather than winding themselves round the support.)

I would have thought that peas would need some help climbing bean poles, which is why twiggy sticks or pea netting is often used instead? 

they do need help climbing bean poles, i thought because they grow 6ft tall that they would climb up a wigwam, but they didn't, oh well we live an learn

[mumofstig]

here's a pic of some of DD's tall peas, which didn't climb and had to be tied up!

http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=50902.msg602784#msg602784

[DD.]

Thanks for covering for me!

[mumofstig]

I do my best......but when it comes to peas, there's a lot  to cover 

[Ma and Pa Snip]

i grew alderman last year and did not get the result i hoped for, i found that they did not grow up the canes like runner beans which is waht i was hoping for, i kept having to tie them in to stop them falling off the canes, going to go back to smaller ones this year.

Not a hope of them growing just up canes I'm afraid.

We made cane wigwams and wrapped them in pea netting

[tontom]

I'm growing Victorian Colossal peas this year for the first time , does anybody know anything about them ? I'm growing them up a heavy nylon netting supported by 8 foot tall 4"x 2" thanks .

[chili]

I'm growing Victorian Colossal peas this year for the first time , does anybody know anything about them ? I'm growing them up a heavy nylon netting supported by 8 foot tall 4"x 2" thanks .

http://www.victoriananursery.co.uk/vegetable_seeds/pea_seed_victorian_colossal_climbing/

[DD.]

No - mustn't look - already got 10 varieties, not counting the mange tout to sow.

Damnit. Must have some!