[Lardman]

my wife and mother in law have alot of digging to do 

All joking aside - thats an huge amount of material to deal with - I think Id break it into 3 and do it across 3 winters rather than trying to do it all at once.

[mumofstig]

Cubic manure- the EU would love that

The EU is manure 

[goodegg]

yes bulls manure at that

[Zippy]

The trouble with manure is weight for weight, most of it is only water - doesn't make sense shovelling all that muck if you are just carting water from one place to another.

Now green manure fits in your pocket and is more natural in my humble opinion.

[countrygardener]

I think this thread is a load of S*ite. haha

[Zippy]

    

[viettaclark]

So if my manure is 70% water what does it weigh per m3 ?
When I buy it they say 1m3 is a tonne in weight. The decimal tonne is 1000 kilos but the Imperial ton is 1016 kilos. Whatever....
I'm supposed to be a maths teacher and I'm having a very senior moment here....

[JayG]

Maybe just a "time for bed" moment!

A tonne (or ton) of anything still weighs a tonne (or ton), although the volume of it will depend on its density (which includes whatever percentage of water it happens to contain.) 

[Wild Pony]

A ton of lead will still weigh the same as a ton of feathers,only the amount you need to get your ton alters. Me thinks Blaster Bates with his 40 yards of sh****. Lolol

[viettaclark]

Well I went through about 2m3 of damp rotted poo and 1m3 of damp compost in a year on my raised beds, front and back garden and that's PLENTY!
 

[greenun]

A  heaped 6x4 trailer with 1ft sides holds a ton of sand. you will need twice as much compost so that's half a ton a pop. =26 kliks there and back. (probably)
Hope that helps :blink:

[Zippy]

I'm sure if you put good old fashioned manure through a press you could get a lorry load into a Peugeot 206 comfortably; though you wouldn't want the car back afterwards 

Whereas a pocketful of Winter Tares seed weighs 250g and yields a crop of green manure many times it's seed weight, mass and nutrients similar to spreading animal manure. You sow the seed and the sun and rain does the rest. There is still as much water but you don't have to cart it anywhere.

The question is how much does sunlight weigh?

True, you can't use the bed while it is under green manure, but animal manuring is usually done in late autumn and winter when most folks are not growing stuff there anyway. By using something like Winter Tares you get a nitrogen fixing plant which can withstand most winter weather.

The other advantage is that being a living plant its roots are holding the bed soil together, breaking the soil down with its roots ready for spring and of course holding and building nutrients from free rain and sunlight for use in the following year's crops.

Have I sold the idea yet or are you still happy shovelling $¬it?

[noshed]

We get it about 15 tonnes at a time and that is a big heap, so I would just get a trailer load at a time. You want to leave room on the plot for barrowing it about.

[aelf]

Voume wise it's 959 cu ft or 27.16 cu metres. (A lot).

Now - how much does manure weight per cu metre?

Oh - deduct the bit where you won't manure for you carrots & parsnips.

I get the same, about 27 cu meters. The large builders bags that you get sand delivered in hold just under a cubic meter of material so you would need about 30 of them. That is a lot of muck!

But you won't need to spread over the paths and non-growing areas, will you? I would just spread it over next year's potato plot this autumn, then do that each year as you rotate your crops - that spreads the work out over 4 or 5 years and saves your back 

[mumofstig]

saves your back 

Good point aelf, no good having nice soil and a knackered back