Thank you david, i will do that.
Eventually i want to grow for show as i said,i have grown before but not in an allotment.was a small greenhouse, but i have to say it feels good once you have grown something from seed,all the way through watching it develop, then eat it.
Self sufficiency would be good but thats some time off i think, untill i am successfull with the allotment, cant wait tbh.