Thanks - on 3 counts .. now, POPHOLE openers

   At last !  Our girls took themselves off to bed by themselves for the 2nd time tonight ..I think (hope) they've got the hang of it now.  It seems to have improved since getting the Lenham house .. I think perhaps the other one though solid and perfectly adequate, still wasn't quite what they would prefer.Anyway, thats another box to tick  (thanks to your advice) as we've now got them playing "nice", eating their greens and going to bed..

Ive trawled through many threads on here looking at the subject of pophole openers.. and am still undecided.   It appears that the general consensus is once you get them adjusted, they're a godsend; perhaps more so in the summer months when the girls may be ready to get up at 4am but you may not be ! I'd appreciate any feedback on this you can give.  What success have you had with the DIY solutions ?