First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2009, 20:16 »
i have a thermometer in there...currently reading 29c (at 20.15)

how far would you keep the towels etc away from the lamp?

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2009, 20:23 »
My chicks were in a lawnmower box, and the heat lamp started off about 50cm from the bottom and 30cm from the sides.  I never had any problems with over heating or combustion lol.

You could take the cage off the bottom of the lamp and place it flat on the mesh top of the brooder - 29°C is still a little cool for a week old - though you might find that if you block off the sides it will warm up nicely on the inside :)

It is surprising just how warm it has to be in that box :nods:

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2009, 20:34 »
What kind of sex-links are they meant to be, as i was under the impression sex-links were either red or black at hatching???

There are several types of sex linking

e.g. Cream Legbars

pullet on the left

Are very similar/same to Dorking with the pullets having a brown line from the head right down the back.

pullet on the left

I have had my two heat lamps very close to the ground and I think they put that message on there as a get out of jail type you can not blame us if you set your house/garage/outbuilding on fire card.
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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2009, 23:33 »
Love the brooder!!!  on wheels too  :)  but yes, like the others say, cover up the sides, but then you may find the lamp is too warm.  I use 250w heat for 100 chicks, above that and I use 2 lamps.

This is my brooder box and the lamp is just a 60w red bulb with a cheap metal shade bought from Wilkinson's (chickenlady's idea!!)  Works a treat  :)

This picture actually shows it with a proper heat lamp over it though!
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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2009, 00:04 »
If the chicks are moving about a lot and not huddled up all the time I would say they are warm enough.
I agree with 'Casey76' the one circled looks like a boy  :(

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2009, 01:35 »
doesnt sound good  :ohmy:

at what age would i (hopefully with help from you good people) be able to sex them for certain?

Since the pic I have taken the guard off the lamp and lowered it, now it sits more or less on the mesh. I have covered the side with some sheets of polystyrene and drapped a towel over the end nearest the door of the out-building. Its currently 32C at 01.30...off to bed now  :)

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2009, 02:24 »
32 deg is fine but I'd be a little concerned at blocking in the sides too much as you really need to create a temperature gradient in the brooder so the chicks can modulate their own temp by moving more directly under the lamp or further away if they are too warm.  In an enclosed space it may retain too much heat during the day and they won't be able to move away from the source and being metal it'll tend to conduct and spread the heat rather than the heat being mainly radiant.  I know it's a BBQ but you don't want to BBQ your chicks, just yet anyway!  I think you maybe worrying unduly about keeping them warm.  If they are too cold they will huddle together and cheep loudly if they are happily moving about then they are fine.  Chicks behaviour is highly synchronised and when one gets up to drink or feed they all do and they all tend to lie down and rest together too. 
Once they start to feather up fully you won't need any heat and provided it doesn't come in too cold you can put them out at 5 to 6 weeks.  You should certainly be able to sex them reliably by 8 weeks and you will probably have a pretty good idea by about 4 or 5 weeks.
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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2009, 00:08 »
Many Thanks for all the info...I think i'm learning slowly  :blink:

I have kept the sides covered, as it creates more of a box...had to raise the lamp higher...but now according to the thermometer max/min it got to 33/30...they seem happy and freely moving about, so i think i've cracked it.

Although I used the BBQ, there is very little metal, only the uprights the rest is wood.

I'll have to take more pics as the weeks progress...keeping fingers crossed there all girls.

how long will i be able to keep them in there for?

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2009, 00:13 »
From the reading I have been doing, I have tried to work out a rough diary of things I need to do or be aware of with the chicks. Is the below correct or can anyone add anything I've missed?

wks old   ⁰F   ⁰C   
0   95   35.0   feed chick crumbs
1   90   32.2   
2   85   29.4   
3   80   26.7   
4   75   23.9   start on chick grit
5   70   21.1   mix growers crumbs
6   65   18.3   Start on growers pellets
7   60   15.6   Come off heat
8         Take outside (weather depending) - start perching
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11         
12         Confirm sexing
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16         give Oyster Shell
17         corn as treat
18         Start on layers pellets

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2009, 14:28 »
sorry, i know i've asked loads of questions...  :unsure:

can anyone help ???

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2009, 15:08 »
give Oyster Shell the same time as you give growers. (have not come across grower crumb) If you read the feed bags it tells you this.
Put outside depending on weather from 10 weeks in a covered (by mesh run) and in a straw box as this will give them warmth at night.
Give corn as treat from 10 weeks.
Start on layers pellets at 16 weeks as they can lay at 16+ weeks and growers can contain (normally the none Organic) anti coccidiosis and there is a egg with drawl period.

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2009, 04:26 »
Personally I don't think your timetable is that far wrong.  When you say mix growers crumbs at 5 weeks you mean to start to add gowers pellets to the crumbs?  This is fine as any change of feed needs to be done gradually say over 2 or 3 weeks.  When you start coming off heat you should start switching it off during the day and only having it on at night.  Obviously pay attention to the ambient temperature and if it is warm you can reduce the heat earlier than you indicate.  At this time of year it's more difficult to have hard and fast rules and you need to use your judgement a bit more than in summer when it's generally steadier conditions.  I'd start to introduce layers at about 14 weeks and aim to have them exclusively on layers by 16 weeks.
Feeding oyster shell I'm not so happy about personally, particularly before they start to lay.  A good quality compound feed contains all the calcium they need and there's more danger of over feeding it than under feeding it if you use a compound feed.  It's particularly bad to over feed when they are young and growing as it effects bone development.  Some people seem to place great emphasis on it but modern feeds are well balanced and it's just given wisdom traditionally handed down in my opinion.  Older birds (3 years plus) are generally thought to need more calcium than younger ones.  If you feel the need to use it just make it available in a mixed grit once laying starts and certainly don't mix it in their feed.  I've actually cut down the amount of calcium as with my 18 month old layers I was finding more problems with pips and chalky shells and the shell quality has actually improved.
Particularly when they are young don't overdo the titbits and keep to no more than 5% of their total feed.
Your brooder will probably be OK for 4 birds upto say 4 weeks but pay attention to any signs of boredom and you will probably need to give them more space to explore.  Cardboard boxes and perches or anything for them to hop about on like swings or balls will keep them occupied and not developing bad habits like feather pecking. A little bit of corn scattered in ther clean litter will encourage their foraging behaviour if you provide for their every need without any effort they can be bored and pick up bad behavioural habits especially when cramped.
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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2009, 07:04 »
...........Feeding oyster shell I'm not so happy about personally, particularly before they start to lay.  .............

As I said always read the bag.  On mine it says give grit with growers.  I have a combination of grit and oyster shell.

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2009, 00:30 »
thanks for the really helpful replies...i'm a complete novice, but hopefully learning fast  :)

when you say the crumbs/pellets are a compound feed and contain everything, does that mean i dont need to start them on chick (fine) grit at 4 weeks old, should i wait until i start giving small amounts of corn in week 17...or did you mean give corn as a scatter feed earlier? and is it ok to scatter the corn in the wood shavings?

am i right in adding a perch in week 8 or could i do it sooner? what size perch should i use for their first one?

when i have to take them out of the brooder, what size box will i need to keep them in until i can start putting them outside in week 8?

sorry for all these questions...  :unsure: this really is a great forum...thanks for all the great advice

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Re: First time rearing chicks...what age are these?? any advice?
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2009, 12:49 »
As you only have 4 birds they don't need much space but fron around 4 weeks they'll start to become more active and want to run about and flp their wings and hop about on things so you need to provide them with some room to do this.  Particularly head room.  I use a conventional octagon brooder which has 18inches high and is around 1.5 metres across flats and they start to out grow that after about 4 - 5 weeks and I then keep them in a stable for no more than a couple of weeks without heat or just at night if it's very cold.  I'd aim to have them outside by 6 weeks if I were you they'll be well feathered and it shouldn't be too cold by then.  I put mine out at 6 weeks from the beginning of March so mid Oct shouldn't be too cold unless it's unusually unseasonal.

I've never made grit available until I start to give corn and I've got them outside but as Roughlee says consult the feed labeling for your brand of growers/ rearers feed.  I'd strongly reccommend you use pellets by the way not mash for a small number of birds.

I was suggesting that if you keep them in till they are 5 weeks plus and you haven't given them much room then they can get bored and providing distractions like a small amount of corn in the clean litter will encourage them to forage and not feather peck.  I wouldn't do this before they are 5 weeks or so and I wouldn't bother with chick grit.  It you're worried just crush a little gravel.  No point in buying specialised feeds and things for a small number of birds just for a short period.

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