Orphaned Baby Spud problem

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Wombat18

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Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« on: May 22, 2009, 00:25 »
I ordered a load of organic spuds from Thompson and Morgan which I carefully put in labelled egg boxes in my brand new Argos greenhouse to chit.  They were a nice mix of first earlies, second earlies and maincrops - the only problem is that my greenhouse blew over and I ended up with a big heap of mixed spuds and had no idea which was which.  Out of desperation I bunged them all in in mid-April.  They've all come up, some faster than others, but what I want to know is, is there any way of telling which are earlies and which are maincrops, or should I just dig up the biggest ones first?   :(

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2009, 11:32 »
The ones that came up first are probably................. earlies.

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2009, 12:11 »
nightmare! same thing happened to my greenhouse 2 years ago. Now it's lashed down with 10mm polyprop rope tied to lengths of scaffold poles driven into the ground. It aint going anywhere!!
As for the spuds, I put my earlies in 2 weeks before my main crop and both have shown at the same time and are about the same size plants! The earlies should flower first, that's the time to start digging them up. Bit of a lottery for you tho ::)
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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2009, 14:30 »
A 'load of organic spuds' sounds like several rows.
I have planted 16 rows and have noticed a difference in colour shading and size of leaf.
Flowers could also help. First flowers should be the earlies but also there are different colours. Don't normally let potatoes flower but I think this may be the only way.
I am curious as to to chitting in a greenhouse in the first place. I would have thought it would get too hot for them.

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2009, 14:46 »
Don't normally let potatoes flower but I think this may be the only way.

Not come across this before - why not let them flower? Does it affect the spuds in some way? I have always just left them alone till i need some or the stems yellow, then dig them all up and store in sacks.

I chit in the greenhouse too

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 16:34 »
I also chit mine in the greenhouse. Never had a problem.
Did it really tell you to do THAT on the packet?

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2009, 17:36 »
I cut and pasted this piece from 'gardenaction.co.uk' . I googled potato flowers.

As the potato plant grows, do not remove or 'stop' the foliage, it is supplying food to the tubers. However, remove any flower heads or buds which appear because these will produce potato seeds which will divert energy from the potato tubers.
Obviously the farmers don't do it-they would be still there now.

And I cut and pasted this from 'RHS' after googling potato chitting.

Keep the trays of tubers in a cool but frost-free place with at least moderate light, such as in an unheated room. Direct sunlight is best avoided.

Incidentally how do you transfer internet site addresses into a message like this?

Another site 'ukonline. co .uk' has a section on potatoes which includes pictures of the flowers by name. (googled potato flower) If your variety is listed you should be able to identify them.

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 17:41 »

Incidentally how do you transfer internet site addresses into a message like this?


You highlight the URL, right click - copy, right click agin - paste.

I think we had enough debate over chitting at the chitting time of year! A lot of us do it in cool greenhouses and would not do so if we didn't get the results.

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 18:48 »
Wombat you have my sympathies, last year my OH (must have had a senior moment) planted 1st and second earlies all  mixed up together , so didnt know which was which.  (We didnt have a good crop anyhow.) 

Think you will just have to go with the flowering solution

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2009, 20:29 »
If you look here
http://varieties.potato.org.uk/varietyindex.php%20?page_no=1

for the varieties you planted you may be able to tell the difference by height or flower colour etc. Some varieties show more info than others tho, so it is a bit hit and miss :unsure:

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 22:27 »
i've had heavy crops for several years without removing the flowers, I don't think it can make that much difference, after all, the tubers are about as big as thay are going to get once the seeds start to form.

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2009, 22:31 »
The removal of the flowers question popped up last year.

I can't remember the exact words, and it would take a bit of searching to find it, but it went on the lines of "Do you think the commerical growers go around acres of fields removing flowers?

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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 22:36 »
I have got fist and second ealries and maincrops, and the first ealries have their flowers open and others are just in bud. Don't know if that is true for all varieties but it seems to make sense  :unsure: :unsure:
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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 23:00 »
Thanks for the advice - no flowers yet, but I'll keep an eye open for the first ones out and make sure I dig those up first.   :)  I did try to plant all the similar looking ones together, and with luck I might be able to identify some of them.  They all look the same at the moment, but I'll try those sites when the flowers come out.  The ones I have are:

    Cara (Late maincrop)
    Charlotte (Second early)
    Orla (First early)
    Desiree (Early maincrop)
    Red Duke of York (First early)
    Sarpo Mira (Late maincrop)

About ten of each type.
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Re: Orphaned Baby Spud problem
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2009, 18:05 »
You're fine with the Red Duke of York cos it has reddy/dark stalks and red tinge to new growth (i'm growing that one)....my charlottes are a lot paler green than RDofY and about twice as high, with buds starting to form ....but i planted them mid March.
At least you can identify one of your 1st earlies :lol:


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