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fertilizer and pesticide combined
« on: May 19, 2009, 15:16 »
Hi people,
              we are new to this site,but are dead keen to exchange views. Ihave quite a large garden here in France and also a small poly tunnel. Just recently, I bought a melon plant, potted it into the polytunnel, and found it completely eaten after just two days !
         We also have 4 deep beds of sprouts, cabbages, cauliflowers, and broccoli. we do collect all the rainwater possible, and find that if we allow comfrey and nettle leaves combined with rhubarb leaves to ferment in the water butt, the result, after several weeks, is the vilest smelling liquid imaginable, but I've now taken to watering everything with it. why? Cabbage whites hate it and the plants seem to love it. Just one thing though! Don't put it anywhere near the house! It smells like death!
         Has anyone tried this or anything like it?
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Re: fertilizer and pesticide combined
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 17:16 »
Welcome Ivories to the site  :D

As your post relates to growing stuff, I've moved it across to Grow Your Own.

Comfrey and nettle leaves as a fertiliser are great, you're right they stink!

But the use of rhubarb leaves as a pesticide is illegal and can't be condoned, sorry.

Quote from RHS - Use of garden chemicals.

"Only products approved by
the government can be used as
pesticides, so home-made pesticides
brewed from concoctions of rhubarb,
cigarette butts or even washing-up
liquid are now outside the law."


https://www.rhs.org.uk/NR/rdonlyres/06FEA701-36F2-41AC-BAFA-E3BDBD22D52C/0/c_and_e_chemical.pdf
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Re: fertilizer and pesticide combined
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009, 20:06 »
Is that an EU directive, Yorkie1? If not it wouldn`t apply to French gardeners.
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 20:12 »
As far as I am aware, yes it is an EU directive - that seems to be behind all of our UK regulations - but I hadn't registered that ivories is in france, sorry Ivories - so thanks for pointing that out
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Re: fertilizer and pesticide combined
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2009, 20:29 »
does everyone stictly adhere to all these EU LAWS :D
HONEST ANSWERS WOULD BE MOST WELCOME :)
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Re: fertilizer and pesticide combined
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 21:00 »
Only the British, then usually with knobs and bells attached
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2009, 21:32 »
Suspect that the RHS has to quote whatever is the offical line. :blush:
Other thing is it EU or UK Health and Safety. ???

Has anyone actually specified a list of what cannot be used as they are poisionous? If so then it is probably a jailable offence as they have just supplied a list of items that can be used to perform terrorist acts. ::) ::) ::)

Sort of Catch 22.
There are lots of things that shouldn't be used as they are poisionous, but we cannot disclose what they are.
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Re: fertilizer and pesticide combined
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2009, 23:05 »
Quote from: DavidT on May 19, 2009, 20:06
Is that an EU directive, Yorkie1? If not it wouldn`t apply to French gardeners.

And if it was, they would ignore it anyway  :D

I suspect the rhubarb would not be needed anyway, as with either of the other two, the stink is probably what's keeping butterflies away, as they cannot detect where the brassicas are.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2009, 19:38 »
Quote from: SG6 on May 19, 2009, 21:32
Suspect that the RHS has to quote whatever is the offical line. :blush:
Other thing is it EU or UK Health and Safety. ???

Has anyone actually specified a list of what cannot be used as they are poisionous? If so then it is probably a jailable offence as they have just supplied a list of items that can be used to perform terrorist acts. ::) ::) ::)

Sort of Catch 22.
There are lots of things that shouldn't be used as they are poisionous, but we cannot disclose what they are.

As far your RHS point is concerned, it is quoting the law in this country, not just some 'official line' or 'H&S'.


The law is that you cannot use a pesticide that does not appear on the pesticides database.

http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/
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