Blackberries/Raspberries

tam · « **on:** March 05, 2009, 14:44 »

Hiya,

We want to put in a couple of blackberries/raspberries but the bed won't be ready until the end of March/beginning of April - is this too late? Should we get them now and pot them up or put them in the ground elsewhere to move when it's ready?

Tam

mumofstig · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2009, 14:47 »

You can either heel them in (plant temporarily, so they don't dry out) or pot them up, for later planting in their 'proper' place once it's ready

tam · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2009, 16:28 »

Thank you! I'm glad that's okay they are one of my favourites

dougsta · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2009, 19:58 »

Heeling in until April and then replanting might not do them too much good.

Have you considered.....

Put each one in its own big pot now - then you will be able to plant a large amount of earth/compost/muck with them when the bed is ready - should mean minimum root disturbance.

Just a thought

Trillium · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2009, 20:00 »

And when you do plant them out, keep the two varieties separated.

Rangerkris · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2009, 06:53 »

Why should the two be separated ? As im thinking of digging up some of my bramble roots and planting with a Raspberry that i have. Im only curious as to why its not a test

Trillium · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2009, 16:39 »

A lot of the cane berries can cross pollinate and not give you the fruit you expected. sometimes the resulting fruit is nice, sometimes not. Black raspberries with red will quickly give you an all black raspberry patch. Brambles can also take over a plot and crowd out the normally aggressive raspberries. I find it best to save unnecessary headaches by giving fruits their own spaces.

Nobbie · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2009, 17:38 »

Quote from: Trillium on March 06, 2009, 16:39

A lot of the cane berries can cross pollinate and not give you the fruit you expected. sometimes the resulting fruit is nice, sometimes not. Black raspberries with red will quickly give you an all black raspberry patch. Brambles can also take over a plot and crowd out the normally aggressive raspberries. I find it best to save unnecessary headaches by giving fruits their own spaces.

As long as you're not growing new plants from the seed produced, cross polination isn't going to be a problem.

tam · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2009, 17:52 »

Pot's it is

They're going to end up pretty close together though, the beds not that big

celjaci · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2009, 18:38 »

Best solution for blackberries is posts and wires and keep them tied up.

Keeps them managable, fruit accessible and stops them spreading - when the tips of the canes touch the ground they root then sprout again and leapfrog forward til your whole plot is filled!!

Trillium · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2009, 21:15 »

Quote from: Nobbie As long as you're not growing new plants from the seed produced, cross pollination isn't going to be a problem.
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True, but a lot of cross pollinated fruit either gets dropped, regurgitated through bird poop or becomes unsightly and not picked so it falls to the ground and germinates as such.
Jostaberries: black currant X gooseberry
Tayberries: blackberry X raspberry
Loganberries: red raspberry X either blackberry or dewberry

woodburner · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2009, 00:41 »

How far apart would they have to be to stop them cross pollinating though?

Trillium · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2009, 05:11 »

Quote from: woodburner on March 07, 2009, 00:41

How far apart would they have to be to stop them cross pollinating though?

15 feet or so would help, just far enough that pollinating bees would stick to one crop at a time.

Rangerkris · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2009, 06:51 »

Well what interesting replys there are in this thread Many Thanks trillium. i might just stick some of the root stocks i dig out in to flower buckets and see how they go im not to bothered if they take or not.

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