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Christine

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« on: September 07, 2008, 09:35 »
I haven't caught up with the compost making for the plot and  am avoiding manure till the chemical problems clear - years hence I suspect for either making enough compost for the clay plot and being sure that manure is safe.

So I went for a hunt to see if there was a good, cheap supplier of compost to help me out.

I found that the most competitive price was the company that takes in the garden waste for the council and uses commercial equipment to compost it.  I've a very good quote delivered that beats any of the garden centres or on-line offers. My family found the phone number when walking Hadrian's Wall but I have no doubt that the council would have provided it.

So it's worth seeing what is on offer locally if you have a council which collects green waste. It may be a good bargain.

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2008, 10:00 »
I wouldn't touch my Council's compost with a barge pole.  I know what I put in it - all the stuff I wouldn't put on my compost heap.  All the mares tail and couch go to the green collection site and they say they turn it into compost in six weeks.  Surely that's not long enough to get rid of the nasties.

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2008, 10:25 »
Ours reckon it takes them 12 weeks to guarantee it's turned so they are working on timescales I understand.  Most of the world around here doesn't know what a compost heap is so it's virtually everything that goes in the bin. Those who run compost heaps don't use their bins.

You don't know what goes into any commercial compost from the garden centre either so it's swings and roundabouts. I've had odd items such as plastic bottle lids and other plastic come out of bags with well known names on them over the years so the stuff from the council can't be any worse and it's certainly cheaper.

I'd rather make my own too but some of us don't have the space or the "stuff" to make enough so have to buy in.  It's just a suggestion for if you needs must buy in. In an ideal world manure would not be contaminated and you could make your own compost from known sources. I wish the world was ideal.  :(

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 15:49 »
Theoretically, any commercial compost, be it council or non, should be OK to use as commercial composting methods are very different to home composting. Commercial composting tends to have closely monitored heaps which means that the optimum composting conditions can be held within the heap pretty much from the word go, therefore the waste gets composted a lot faster than at home.

Naturally, it depends on the way the waste is composted as to how quickly it decomposes - using something like an in-vessel composter will yield compost a lot more quickly than perhaps a static pile.

Composting should kill off all the weeds and things, even japanese knotweed, thanks to the high temperatures within the pile. As for foreign materials in the compost, I can't comment because I've always been lucky enough to have decent compost (*touch wood*!) regardless of the brand.

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2008, 19:16 »
Regarding the council compost I tried to get some out of our council's composters. apparently they dont yet match the European regulations and so are unable to supply it yet. they are working to getting approved.

It seems to me that if they have strict rules then they should supply a good product. On the other hand I worry about all the things that go in the bins which have had weed killers and other chemicals on them.

As I say I havent had any. I think I would have some and see what it is like in a test before spreading it everywhere. Others use it, even get it free!
Patrick
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Christine

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2008, 19:41 »
I've heard good words of our local council place from customers. It's certainly not expensive.  At least it won't be using that scare commodity peat and it won't have chemicals added by the manufacturer to make your plants grow better like some do.

There's no simple answer to buying in compost is there?

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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2008, 19:59 »
Ahh missed the free compost give away!! http://www.sefton.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=8547 nevermind will look into this for filling up the raised beds!
Graham = 2x Border collie Dogs, 2x Cats, 1x Wife, 2x Kids, 2x Hamsters and now 10x chickens.

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 15:02 »
Quote from: "wighty"
I wouldn't touch my Council's compost with a barge pole.  I know what I put in it - all the stuff I wouldn't put on my compost heap.  All the mares tail and couch go to the green collection site and they say they turn it into compost in six weeks.  Surely that's not long enough to get rid of the nasties.



i know what goes into my brown bin for council  compost too.but i have my own gardening business,and il just say in the summer i have too much compostable decent stuff that i cant get rid of,my compost bins  and brown bins are overflowing,some just needs shredding a bit but i have to pay to get rid of it,maybe your local gardener may have same problem as me.  free compost surely they would be glad to drop it all off .free wood too [twigs ect]

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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2008, 19:20 »
I'm finding it difficult to make enough compost for both my garden and my allotment - is there anything else I can compost that I've not already thought of - assuming I'm doing all the usual things - what about the less obvious things ?

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compostqueen

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2008, 22:15 »
Finding it difficult  :?   Surely not. You can't be trying hard enough.  You must do better  :!:  :lol:

woolly jumpers
hoover bag fluff
cardboard, newspaper, ripped up or crumpled up

I assume all your kitchen coffee grounds and tea bags are going in there, egg shells etc, fruit cores, nana skins.

All your spent garden flowers and summer bedding, grass cuttings,

If you can't make enough then you could get your neighbours and friends collecting for you  :D

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scattybiker1972

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2008, 23:05 »
my compost bins are overflowing,its addictive .toilet roll tubes[unless im using them to plant seeds] eggshells look on recycle now website dog cat hair human hair  there is alsorts,ask friends and family if they can save their veg stuff ect,even if you get them a cheap caddy, teabags dead house plants grow more veggies,keep chickens rabbits or quail . hamster bedding.pester everybody,tell them its their enviromental duty to recycle it all.

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compostqueen

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2008, 15:09 »
I'm desparate for another bin for home and have been trying to get one off Freecycle for yonks but keep getting pipped at the post. Our subsidised ones are now £20  :evil:  

Mind you I'm turning some of the cooked stuff from the bottom of the bin this weekend which will free up some more space  :D

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scattybiker1972

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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2008, 16:43 »
Quote from: "compostqueen"
I'm desparate for another bin for home and have been trying to get one off Freecycle for yonks but keep getting pipped at the post. Our subsidised ones are now £20  :evil:  

Mind you I'm turning some of the cooked stuff from the bottom of the bin this weekend which will free up some more space  :D


look on recycle now website ,they subsidise bins with local councils and do them really  cheap ours are sumetimes 10  or chop the bottom off a wheelie bin  [ha ha ] :twisted:

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compostqueen

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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2008, 16:52 »
yes, as I said,  subsidised cost us £20  :(   The subsidy level depends on individual councils

The council now runs a green bin scheme and so is now discouraging home composting so has removed the subsidy on the bins, thus we have to pay £20 for a 660 litre bin instead of the £8 we had been paying :(

If I can get one off Freecycle I'll be chuffed  :D

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scattybiker1972

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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2008, 19:00 »
look on recycle now website and see what they are offering type in your postcode and they let you know how much one is with different gov subsidies   :)  worth a look if nothing else



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