Cover after weed killing

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Cover after weed killing
« on: May 23, 2023, 21:01 »
Hi, I have my new plot, best location on the allotment.

Covered in couch grass. Digging is not an option. Really as I have MS and will be too much.

I will strim it down, wait a few weeks, use glyphosate.

My question isÖ.. after I use the weed killer can I cover straight away? ideally with manure so that in a month or so I can rotate it and have a bare weed free plot to work until I am Ready to plant.

Thanks all I knowing it seems like Iím trying for the easy options, I am just too get it too a starting point.
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Re: Cover after weed killing
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2023, 21:09 »
Welcome to the forums and congrats on your new allotment, even if it is a bit challenging ... !

Glyphosate works by being absorbed through the leaves of the plant and taken down to the roots. This means that you need enough leaves to start with, and the plant needs to be in active growth, and so you shouldn't cover the grass as soon as you've applied the weedkiller. It should be one or the other.

You might want to use a cover after a few weeks, once the grass has gone yellowed or brown, to minimise growth from roots that weren't attached to grass that was killed.

If you do apply weedkiller, then don't do so if the grass has dew or water on it, or if it's due to rain in the next 6 hours, or if it's breezy / windy.

Good luck!
« Last Edit: May 23, 2023, 21:10 by Yorkie »
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Re: Cover after weed killing
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2023, 21:24 »
Welcome to the forums and congrats on your new allotment, even if it is a bit challenging ... !

Glyphosate works by being absorbed through the leaves of the plant and taken down to the roots. This means that you need enough leaves to start with, and the plant needs to be in active growth, and so you shouldn't cover the grass as soon as you've applied the weedkiller. It should be one or the other.

You might want to use a cover after a few weeks, once the grass has gone yellowed or brown, to minimise growth from roots that weren't attached to grass that was killed.

If you do apply weedkiller, then don't do so if the grass has dew or water on it, or if it's due to rain in the next 6 hours, or if it's breezy / windy.

Good luck!

Thank you so much! That makes so much sense! I couldnít find any info on if it would work but it makes so much sense, maybe it was too obvious 😂 luckily we seem to be in the least windy part of the country! Just need to sort the rain out!

Iím terrified of out getting on neighbouring plots. Luckily one side is neglected and I will use a tarp to protect the other when spraying just in case.

Iím very conscious that I will not be very popular, but hopefully when itís clear everyone else will appreciate another well looked after plot 🤞

Looking forward to digging around the forum 🙄.

Thanks again.

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Re: Cover after weed killing
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2023, 09:04 »
So admire you doing this with MS. When you spray keep the spray nozzle relatively near the ground to minimise drift and don't apply on a hot day as the air thermals can make it drift. Perhaps tell your plot neighbour what you're going to do then he may be able to provide cover and advice. I find that you still get weeds emerging and so you could do a spot weed killer attack by using a plastic milk bottle and cutting the bottom off, put it over the noxious weed then put the sprayer nozzle through the top and blast it. This will prevent any drifting onto nearby plants including your own. You could also do this if the weed is very close or amongst your plants, but first get a cane so you can fix the milk bottle over the weed to hold it on place, use your sprayer then leave the milk bottle where it is until weed death is obvious.  :)
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Re: Cover after weed killing
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2023, 12:19 »
Iím not a fan of weed killers but have used them in the past, but Iím sure your other plotters will be mightily relieved to see that neglected plot turned into a wonderful growing space. Youíve had lots of good advice already but Iíd add,  if you rotovate at the prescribed time following weed death, level the ground & wait for weed growth to re-emerge then spray again. That way you will concentrate the weed killer to just this season & with your health condition give yourself the best chance of taming your plot and making it work for you.
The best piece of advice I ever read was to the 1st 15 minutes & last 15 minutes of each visit to the plot should be spent hoeing, or in my case swoeing (much better it cuts on the push & pull stroke). This works really well & when I follow that advice myself I have hardly any weeds.
And for those of my forum friends on here who are surprised to hear me say that as I garden as organically as possibly & follow a no dig principe where possible, sometimes needs must and if it keeps you gardening and out and about enjoying life, fill your boots :)
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Re: Cover after weed killing
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2023, 19:02 »
Congrats on the new allotment! You'll have it under control eventually!

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Re: Cover after weed killing
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2023, 05:39 »
Congratulations on the plot!

As snowdrops said be aware that you may need several applications of weedkiller to fully get on top of the weeds. A new plot holder on our site (a retired horticulturist he proudly told me!) has carried out at least 2 applications and there is still a bit of couch coming back. But it's certainly been effective compared to the wilderness before.



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Re: Cover after weed killing
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2023, 08:05 »
Following an earlier comment, weeds need leaves in order to absorb the glyphosate.  For grass and other weeds that grow back, don't use the strimmer before spraying again. Once you are sure the weeds are under control, you can cover (or dig for those that care to do so).
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Re: Cover after weed killing
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2023, 22:21 »
If you are worried about spray drift, you could always use a watering can with a rose to apply the glyphosate. Much less chance of a any going astray.



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