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Tommy54321

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« on: November 02, 2020, 14:50 »
So apart from my plot looking an absolute mess of falling leaves, I have been pulling out the final broccoli plant and putting on the compost, I was wondering can I just pull them out and leave them to compost where they were, rather than adding to an already massive heap of grass cutting and leaves etc......is this something that is not ideal. I have some Sweetcorn plants that I will be pulling out and was wondering why dont i just pull them and leave them on the soil to compost over winter.

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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2020, 15:07 »
I often do that with soft leaved plants (Google chop & drop composting) but I think you've chosen the 2 worst things to do it with  ::) Brassica and sweetcorn stems take a really long time to rot away. I tend to put them in a pile against my back fence where I can simply forget about them altogether  :blush:  :lol:

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2020, 15:32 »
On the heap or on the ground they'll rot a lot quicker if you can chop them up (I use hedge shears and secateurs), can't do chop and drop here unfortunately too many slugs.

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2020, 17:30 »
I'm glad you told us that Mum because i stripped the leaves of the brassicas and put the storks on a separate heap with the sweet corn storks so when there  dried out we can burn them along with other weeds that won't compost is that rite  :unsure:

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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2020, 22:35 »
Hello if you have a shredder or a rotary mower chop them down then compost them  jezza

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2020, 00:09 »
The reason we make a compost heap on a limited part of our ground is for the following reasons:
1.   materials rotting in a heap take nitrogen to do so and this does not deplete nitrogen from the soil
2.   materials rot better when different materials are mixed together
3.   the heap attracts specialist workers who are more effective than ordinary soil creatures
4.   rotting in situ works against rotation of crops
5.   the compost produced can be targeted to where it is most advantageous , eg under the roots of transplanted brassicas
6.   the process is much speedier than composting separately
7.   the material is of much better quality and of smaller particle size so that it can be more easily absorbed by both plants and soil
8.  the composting process can be adjusted for maximum effectiveness by incorporating water and kitchen waste which quickly produces heat
9.  the composting process produces heat which can kill both weed seeds and pathogens
All weeds can be composted if necessary by firstly either drying or wetting potentially troublesome materials in a bucket prior to adding to the heap.   A very few weeds are potentially dangerous such that the benefits of producing compost is likely to prove less beneficial than the dangers of spreading these weeds to areas hitherto unaffected by them such as ground elder or horsetail/marestail.

« Last Edit: November 03, 2020, 00:12 by CHRISDONOHUE »

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2020, 01:36 »
For woody brassica stems and sweetcorn I normally give them a bash with a rubber mallet on concrete slabs to bust up their hard exterior before composting. Almost always they rot down to compost by the next summer this way as the bacteria and worms have access to the softer insides.

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2020, 10:37 »
I do the bash and put in the compost heap method. If any large lumps are still there when I come to use the compost, I chuck them back in the heap with the next lot of stuff.

As others have said, if you can shred them or cut them up fine, they rot much faster.

File and forget in a corner is also an option.  Even the most unpromising heap of woody waste will rot in the end and does so faster if you can cover it with something.  Split open compost bags and bricks, tarpaulin, ... whatever you have to hand  :)

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2020, 11:30 »
I chop my brassica stems with an axe onto a piece of wood,hopefully angled into the compost bin, great frustration reliever lol. I do sometimes bring them home to shred if they are dry & if I can be bothered. I did bring this years sweet corn stems back the other week to shred but I ended up taking them back yesterday as they weren’t dry enough even after a couple of weeks in the greenhouse  :wacko:. Not sure those particular ones will be coming back again, too much of a faff, might just throw them in with the chickens to dry them out in future.
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