Spinach gone to seed

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Spinach gone to seed
« on: June 22, 2020, 11:11 »
Hi
I think my spinach is about to flower (seed), does that mean it is pretty much the end?? Should i remove all the leaves i can now and remove the plant now, make room for something else??  advice please, 1st timer here.
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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2020, 11:16 »
Spinach often runs to seed, but especially so in hot weather, which we had in May.  It is so quick growimg though that I would just re-sow some more.
Alternatively grow leaf beet or perpetual spinach.  It tastes virtually the same- perhaps not quite such a pronounced taste, but is not prone to bolting in the same way and you can often get 2 or at least 1 and a half seasons out of it.

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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2020, 12:06 »
forgot to add that it is beet spinach, big massive leaves  :D

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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2020, 13:42 »
Is your leaf beet in its second year?  If so, it is to be expected that it will run to seed about now.  If it is in its first year, you have been a bit unlucky, again I reckon due to the hot weather.   In any case, the plant will need to come out and be replaced.

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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2020, 14:08 »
yeah ok, It is the first year, out of the 6 that i have so far 2 look like they are about to flower, i will check later on and maybe look to removing them

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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2020, 16:27 »
the hot weather drove all of ours to seed quite quickly. Its a shruggy shoulders thing as its the first thing to show the stress of really hot weather. As Anne suggests sow some more and I'd stick it into a successional sowing plan sowing every x weeks to ensure you get a chance. Can always stick it in a pot if it goes too well

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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2020, 23:00 »
Pulled a whole row up today, gone to seed. Salvaged the leaves that i could, but hardly any root on them. Row in the shade thriving. Question could i sow more in same place as these were transplanted other row was sown direct thank you

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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2020, 08:26 »
Yes, that should be fine mrsbean, but I'd wait until this week has passed.  It's likely to be too hot for germination.
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days all attack me at once...

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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2020, 21:12 »
Thank you Yorkie, will do the same with other veg i need to sow. just hang back till next week x

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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2020, 10:37 »
Yes, that should be fine mrsbean, but I'd wait until this week has passed.  It's likely to be too hot for germination.
How hot is too hot for germination? Is this why my pak choi has failed to germinate?

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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2020, 11:37 »
Time for my annual mention of the chart showing the effects of soil temperature on seed germination (there is a link to it it 'Growing FAQ's'):

https://tomclothier.hort.net/page11.html

Pak Choi is not specifically mentioned, but it's a member of the brassica family so the figures for cabbage may well be relevant.

More than almost any other crop, the germination percentage falls off a cliff as you go from 99% germination success in 5 days at around 25C, to zero germination at 30C (note these are soil temperatures, on a sunny day soil temperatures are probably even higher than the air temperature at sowing depth.)
Sow your seeds, plant your plants. What's the difference? A couple of weeks or more when answering possible queries!

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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2020, 10:58 »
Time for my annual mention of the chart showing the effects of soil temperature on seed germination (there is a link to it it 'Growing FAQ's'):

https://tomclothier.hort.net/page11.html

Pak Choi is not specifically mentioned, but it's a member of the brassica family so the figures for cabbage may well be relevant.

More than almost any other crop, the germination percentage falls off a cliff as you go from 99% germination success in 5 days at around 25C, to zero germination at 30C (note these are soil temperatures, on a sunny day soil temperatures are probably even higher than the air temperature at sowing depth.)

Thanks for this JayG, it is really useful information. A question. I planted them when the temperature was too high. Does this do lasting damage to the seeds or will they all start germinating now the temperature has dropped? If it is the former I will need to sow some more. If it is the latter I need to simply wait.

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Re: Spinach gone to seed
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2020, 12:18 »
Perhaps not surprisingly, different seeds have different tolerances to heat, and it's not possible to know exactly what temperature yours were subjected to anyway.
Best guess is that somewhere around 40C (104F) and upwards is where things could get problematic.

I'd give it a week of what is now cooler weather before giving up on the existing seeds.


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