What I did on the plot today 2020

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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #225 on: October 11, 2020, 13:08 »
Today I set up our new compost bin - it's one of those dalek things.   Now we're  thinking about what to put in it! Food waste from home is easy - but that about the weeds and other stuff from  the allotment itself?  In particular what about couch grass and bindweed? 

We have had a couch grass problem ever since we started on the lottie - after the parish council helpfully rotovated the plot before we took it on.  This meant they cut up all the couch grass roots and spread them over most of the allotment.  I've spent the last 12 years digging out the couch, with help from glyphosate at times.   But there are still couch bits on almost every bed, and bindweed roots as well.  Can I compost these?  or should I keep them apart from the ordinary chickweed and other annual weeds that appear all the time?

Where do I get advice on what I can tip into the dalek?

Cheers - Neville

I'm curious if your community does municipal composting. These large municipal systems compost at much higher sustained temperatures than you can sustain in a dalek or compost pile on your plot (this is to kill off pathogens). Those temperatures will also kill live seeds and roots of most plants. If your community has such a system, and accepts yard waste, that is a good place to compost your weeds.

My leaves and limbs (at least some of them) go to municipal compost, and I get the finished compost for 20 dollars a truck load.
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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #226 on: October 11, 2020, 17:04 »
I throw couch grass roots ( or any other perennial weed roots) onto a path and let them dry out/die off, before putting it into the compost bins - alternatively you can drown them in a bucket of water first.

Here's an old thread with another idea https://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=33334.msg399033#msg399033
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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #227 on: October 16, 2020, 13:05 »
Many years ago, I had so much work to do that I neglected a section of my allotment which got covered with couch grass.  I thought couch grass was dangerous.   So I dug it up and left it in a pile well away from my compost heap.   When I got enough time to return, to my surprise it had rotted well, so I transferred it to my compost heap where it rotted much more efficiently helped by the specialist worms and other creatures I had recruited there.   Subsequently, I simply toss any couch grass directly on my compost heap - it does not need to be first either dried or heavily soaked - and the exclusion of light - whether the heap is covered or not - kills it anyway.   My advice it to try this - if you are extremely doubtful and prefer the advice of people who are willing only to follow dogmatic advice rather than experiment themselves, you can always dry or wet it to kill it first.

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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #228 on: October 16, 2020, 14:38 »
Youre quite the gardening rebel arent you Chris  ::)
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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #229 on: October 16, 2020, 14:39 »
I don't consider my advice dogmatic, I just speak from many years of experience. Your experience may be different, that's all.

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the exclusion of light - whether the heap is covered or not - kills it anyway.
Is it not strange then, that any bits of root left underground, thus also excluded from light - continue to grow and thrive?

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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #230 on: October 16, 2020, 16:21 »
having sprayed our couch grass several months ago and then sowing a crop of mustard the ground is clear of couch grass and because the ground has dried up some this week here i was able to plough both our allotment plots and another friends plot today so everything looks quite tidy now just need to dig over a couple of raised beds also  have some spring cabbage plants to plant out in the beds next week weather permitting

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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #231 on: October 16, 2020, 16:40 »
I don't consider my advice dogmatic

Given you offered 2 different solutions - dry out or drown, plus a link to a thread with other ideas, neither do I  :)

I dry out roots of perennial weeds before they go near the compost. It is an easy way to make sure they dont regrow. 

One of my plot neighbours has a sealed bin with a base that they use.  As it is totally dark and just weeds rotting together, that does kill them all, but it dont half whiff when they open it.  You can do the same in a normal compost heap, but you would have to manage it carefully.  As had been pointed out before, we have readers of all levels of experience, so I could see people blithely chucking all sorts in an open heap and ending up with a right old mess.

My job today was lift all the dahlias and get them drying out in the shed, plus more clearing and weeding.  The soft annual weeds have gone straight in the compost bin and the nasties are drying out nearby   :)

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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #232 on: November 03, 2020, 08:40 »
Sunday morning, before the rain started, planted out a batch of keepwell over wintering onions that I started from seed in September.

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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #233 on: November 07, 2020, 06:46 »
well, technically yesterday...Racked up millions of damp leaves and stuffed them into bags ready to be prepared for the mulch bin.
Removed a lot of fallen branches from the trees lining the west side of the garden and stacked them ready for firewood...one of the most satisfying jobs  :wacko:
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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #234 on: November 10, 2020, 15:33 »
Compost, and wood ash dug into the veg patch. i don't grow winter veg so that's it closed off until the spring.
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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #235 on: November 12, 2020, 17:31 »
Walked over to the plot to get some fresh air and exercise.   It was a bit of a mud fest, but I paddled around and tidied up a bit.

Harvested cabbage and chard and then walked home  :)

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Re: What I did on the plot today 2020
« Reply #236 on: November 12, 2020, 20:04 »
Trundled my trusty steed over to the plot (wheelbarrow, lol) full of the spent plants from the pots on the front. Added those to compost bin no.1 along with a bag of fresh manure. Then I took 2 barrow loads of leaves from bin 5 to the leaf mould cage.
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