[GardenShed]

Ive bought a blackberry cane from Homebase, apparently it is one that doesnt have thorns. Im going to plant it at the perimeter of my allotment. Do I need to use two stakes and wire as support, or will it do ok without?
I have raspberry canes which I inherited that do not have support.

If I do need to use support, how close do I plant the cane to the line of wires? and how high should the top wire be?  Someone mentioned 6 foot but that seems huge!!  Surely the bush wont end up being 6 foot tall!!  Would prefer not to go higher 4 or 5 foot at most - there is already some exiting stakes and a few lines of wire which acts as a fence between mine and another allotment, which I could just add to.  But obviously don't want to start making the existing fence higher as it will look weird and possibly irritate the neighbour?

Also planting goodberry.

Any advice appreciated! Thanks.

[DD.]

Blackberries are what you make of them, but to get a decent amount of fruit you need to give them width, but they don't need a lot of depth.

My thornless one I train along wires supported by scaffold pole. It has 15 feet in which to spread itself and about 5' in height. It could easily take more.

It takes no more than a foot in depth.

It sounds like you may have a good spot in which to put it, as long as you have sufficient width. Plant it almost up to the wire.

[GardenShed]

Ok brilliant, I ll just add some extra lines of wire, but leave it at about 4 or 5 foot.  Width is not a problem, there is a couple of meters.

at the moment it is 1 single cane with nothing growing off it. its about 30 cm high i guess - do i just plant it or tirm it down?

As the stems grow is it a case of losely tying them to the wire - is that what "tying in" means?

Thanks!

[DD.]

Leave it as it is and tie it in loosely as you say.

You should get a lot of others spring up from the root and you can train them as you wish.

[sunshineband]

Just bear in mind that it is likely to be a variety that flowers & fruits on the previous year's growth, and so you may not get fruit this summer

Treat it well and it will do you proud for many year to come though 

[GardenShed]

Sorry if I am being stupid, but at the moment its just one think stem which does not look like it needs any support, and it is only short I presume I do not have to tie this to the wire, but just plant close to the wire?

As stems start to grow upwards, do I just use green garden wire to loosely tie the stem to the wire?

[sunshineband]

I use soft string to tie in the growths as they lengthen.

This is because once those canes have fruited I cut them off at the end of the season and I can just snip the string rather than untwiddle wire

The new growths to fruit next year are just beginning to appear above ground on mine this week, but will take  a while before they are long enough to tie onto the wire framework, as my lowest wire in about 1m high

[GardenShed]

How many lines of wire do you use and at what intervales from the ground? Thanks.

[AnnieB]

I have 2 varieties and one will throw 2 or 3 canes of 12 foot that are thick enough to not need any support, although tying them to something is a good idea just to control them.

The other will throw 2 or 3 canes of 15 to 20 foot that do need tying to something, as well as being longer they are thinner.

Both fruit well and the fruit is nice, not the classic bramble taste.

Did they name the variety ?

[GardenShed]

Will have to check what variety I have.  what do you mean 15 to 20 feet? IN what direction? 

Shall I just have two wires - one of the wires 2.5 foot high and the other one 4.5 foot high - would this suffice?