Manure

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wendycas

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Manure
« on: March 03, 2013, 10:40 »
Hi there
We manured most of our beds last year in the autumn and they are sitting there ready to go soon but we have a few new beds dug and were going to get some manure to stick on. Now, it should be well rotted but if it's still a bit smelly, can it go on the beds for crops to go in in the coming months? I've heard that manure that's not rotted down enough actually takes nitrogen out of the soil for the breaking down process, is it right? So, if that were the case-would adding poulty manure pellets in too help counteract this?  Or is it best not to manure now and just use other fertilizers to condition the soil?
Sorry there's about 50 questions in there......!
Thanks  :wacko:

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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 11:33 »
If it's not smelly it's OK, if it is it's probably still a bit too fresh to use (it's too much nitrogen in the form of free ammonia and ammonium compounds which can cause problems rather than not enough.)

It's high carbon/low nitrogen materials (like fresh straw or wood shavings/chippings) which can cause a temporary nitrogen deficit in the soil - although fresh manure often contains one or more of those items it contains enough nitrogen of its own for it not to be a problem if composted before use.
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Re: Manure
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 18:12 »
Hi there
Thanks very much. We'll have to have a sniff of it when we get it and go from there!
Thanks again!

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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 18:36 »
On a similar note, our lottie now gets regular deliveries of manure which is brilliant, however I am confused as today's delivery looked very different to the 'usual' sort. It usually has straw in it and sometimes looks very fresh but if you dig deep you can find the much darker stuff and a fair smattering of lumps of poo. Today's delivery had loads of lumps of pop and instead of straw it had what looked like woodchips but not very much at all.
Which sort is better please?
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Re: Manure
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 19:11 »
The straw is better cos it rots quicker - but it's still worth stacking the wood chip one ;)

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Re: Manure
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2013, 04:13 »
How smelly is smelly? ive just collected some thats been there a year had a boot load and couldnt smell it..on this assumption would you presume it is ok?

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2013, 07:40 »
This is interesting because the manure that we get delivered never seems to smell.  Or maybe I just haven't noticed it so it can't be that strong.
One thing that it does do is STEAM! If you dig in really deep, the heat that comes off it is truly amazing.
A fellow plot holder germinates his peas by putting them in a wet cloth, inside a metal tin (to stop the mice getting them) and tucks them inside his manure heap. After a couple of days the peas have germinated and then he plants them out. What a whiz idea.


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