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prestongirl82

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plum tree problems
« on: January 03, 2013, 00:11 »
Hi
I have an allotment in Preston, Lancashire.
I have three Victoria plum trees on the plot. The first year the trees did very well and we had so many plums I had to give bags away. Last year we had no plums at all. The leaves were curly on two of the trees and didn't flower, yet the other tree did flower but no fruit were grown.
The trees have been on my plot for at least 10 years and are about 10ft tall with lots of branches. Does anyone have any advice on how to get fruit this year?

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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 00:24 »
Lots of fruit trees were hit by a frost when in blossom which put paid to fruit last year.
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Re: plum tree problems
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 01:00 »
Plums have a reputation for being inconsistent in terms of fruit production

I have planted two different varieties this year so no first hand experience yet but have read that ways to combat this are :

1 - Using correct pruning methods
2 - Sacrificing some of the fruit at an early stage during the years there is a bumper crop

As mentioned the weather was generally abysmal last year which I'm sure didn't help either


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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 09:18 »
Fruit pollination was poor last year owing to a warm spring bringing the blossom out before the pollinators were around, then a frost, and also rain preventing the pollinators flying.

Also, sometimes fruit trees take a year off after a bumper crop to recover.
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days all attack me at once...

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Re: plum tree problems
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 09:22 »
The curled leaves were probably due to a greenfly infestation.

Frost -- already mentioned -- put paid to flowers last year

Pruning -- not until after it has flowered. Stone fruits are liable to get silver leaf if you prune them in Winter or Autumn.

Give the trees some potassium sulphate as this helps develop healthy fruiting buds

Hope that helps
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 13:39 »
As everyone has said it has been a very bad year for plums, hardly anyone got many and most of us got pretty much nothing!
What Jamrock said about thinning seems to be a good idea. Bob Flowerdew recommends thinning fruit every year (assuming it is not a year like this one with none to thin). He believes it evens out the cropping over the years making it less likely to get into the good year, bad year cycle.  He also says that yeilds are about the same whether thinned or not, a thinned crop will produce fewer but bigger fruits, a none thinned crop will produce more smaller fruits. But the other advantage of thinning is that it requires less of a trees resources to produce the sugars etc to make bigger fruits than it does to make the stones/pips etc of many smaller fruits, so it is also better for the long term health of the tree. This seems to make sense to me and is advice that I plan to follow. :)

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Re: plum tree problems
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2013, 14:21 »
The curled leaves were probably due to a greenfly infestation.

Frost -- already mentioned -- put paid to flowers last year

Pruning -- not until after it has flowered. Stone fruits are liable to get silver leaf if you prune them in Winter or Autumn.

Give the trees some potassium sulphate as this helps develop healthy fruiting buds

Hope that helps

And protect all pruning cuts with wound paint to further help prevent silverleaf.
Only prune when the sap is rising.

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Re: plum tree problems
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 17:00 »
Thanks for your replies. I will await the flowers and see if any buds form.

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Re: plum tree problems
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2013, 19:04 »
The curled leaves were probably due to a greenfly infestation.

Frost -- already mentioned -- put paid to flowers last year

Pruning -- not until after it has flowered. Stone fruits are liable to get silver leaf if you prune them in Winter or Autumn.

Give the trees some potassium sulphate as this helps develop healthy fruiting buds
Hope that helps

And protect all pruning cuts with wound paint to further help prevent silverleaf.
Only prune when the sap is rising.

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Pruning with wound paint is not considered good practice any longer, I'm afraid.


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