Gooseberries and apples in a hot climate

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londongardener

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Gooseberries and apples in a hot climate
« on: September 04, 2008, 15:42 »
In the future my wife wants us to go and live in Colombia.

Do you think the above can be grown somewhere hot?

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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 19:39 »
we have apples and a gooseberries  and although the apples get rather big the gooseberries could have been bigger but did get some jam from them .
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Re: Gooseberries and apples in a hot climate
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 20:54 »
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In the future my wife wants us to go and live in Colombia.

Do you think the above can be grown somewhere hot?


No. Unless in the hills. They need winter chill to fruit.

PS Have you got riffle skills? :lol:
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2008, 09:24 »
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No. Unless in the hills. They need winter chill to fruit.

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I read that apples can be grown in a hot climate - if they you pull the leaves off to stimulate winter.
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PS Have you got riffle skills? :lol:

More people have been killed by terrorists in London this century than Bogota.

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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2008, 09:27 »
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we have apples and a gooseberries  and although the apples get rather big the gooseberries could have been bigger but did get some jam from them .
Chrissie b

Any advice ?  Also how did you gooseberry bushes in Greece?

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2008, 10:23 »
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No. Unless in the hills. They need winter chill to fruit.

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I read that apples can be grown in a hot climate - if they you pull the leaves off to stimulate winter.
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PS Have you got riffle skills? :lol:

More people have been killed by terrorists in London this century than Bogota.


I would not believe easily either of those.

Two things to clarify though, and then you can do your own localised research, which part of the country you are interested in.

1) You cannot stimulate winter by taking off leaves
2) Climate is rather : maritime, continental, tropical, etc. than hot and will vary greatly within a country, especially the one mentioned.

Bogota itself is quite high altitude, don't know though how cold it gets.

Greece, hot it might seem, does not have a tropical climate - which parts of Colombia do - some Mediterrenean countries had more snow and cold last winter than we in the UK.

Number of daylight hours will differ too nearer The Equator, this also has a great effect on plant growth.

Don't forget either that Colombia's weather is greatly influenced by El Nino and La Nina effects.

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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2008, 11:51 »
Here is the state of the art on this to study:

Java project

Colombian project

How a private grower fares with this, I do not know, if at all such trees on such root stocks are available to them.

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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2008, 12:15 »
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Here is the state of the art on this to study:

Java project

Colombian project

How a private grower fares with this, I do not know, if at all such trees on such root stocks are available to them.


Thanks - it won't be some time (4 years) before we go.

This is interesting :-

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Starting around 1960 apple growing in East Java developed from a few straggling trees into an industry of some 2 million trees. Production per year is estimated at approx. 15 000 ton. Unique features are that the apples are grown at lower elevations (700 – 1 200 m) than elsewhere in the tropics and that trees produce 2 crops per year (amounting to 3 ton/ha/year in good orchards), through manipulation of the growth rhythm by defoliation and pruning, in the young trees supplemented by bending.


I though defoliation would work.

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2008, 13:29 »
Don't forget it's a small part of a complex growing technique, they do a lot more things to them.


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