Try adding some olive oil. ![happy :)](https://chat.allotment-garden.org/Smileys/green/smile.gif)
Cheers, Tony.
as some of you know from earlier on in the year i was doing all my bread baking by hand untill a lengthy thread on here lasting several day,s started by grendel if stroke brain is getting it right
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prompted me to invest in a bread maker- - - as recomended by nearly all who took part in the discusion,would never go back now to hand baking ( health wouldnt allow me the pleasure of the kneeding process now anyway ) and i have not had a dissapointment yet ( there i go with my big mouth again
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) i never have used butter either by hand or bread maker allways olive oil and i trained under a german chef that swore it makes for a lighter loaf. the conversion i have allways used is if they state the butter amount in ozs which some of the old school cook books do, convert it to grms and then convert the grms to mls- - - - it sounds complicated but it is not i promise
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for example for every one oz of butter required, that = 25grm and that in turn = the same no in mls ie = 25 mls of olive oil or veg oil i have used when olive has ran out and still got exellent results all you need ( no pun intended
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) is a set of mls measuring cups and they are cheap enough !!! ---- this method should help you --- i hope so anyway cos as the other,s on the site will tell you --- it,s not very often i acctually bother being super serious with my posts,i,m very much a toungue in cheek man and that,s what keeps my determination and strength up to enjoy life to the full!! give it a try i think you will be mildly suprised,and as someone else said on here it dosn,t happen over night, pattisiere side of a comercial kitchen is one of the hardest and most difficult to master it takes years !!
good look
jay
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