On the verge of giving it up....

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symonep

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Re: On the verge of giving it up....
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2012, 21:54 »
Kirin, excellent ideas there, thank you will start to do some research
Gained an allotment on the 19th June 08, 135ft by 40ft! eekk. Finally after 4 years it is looking like an allotment and not a jungle

We have 5 lovely hens in the garden, fish, 2 dogs and 2 canaries

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Re: On the verge of giving it up....
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2012, 21:58 »
To be honest, anyone would be depressed about their plots if they were still fighting the weeds to the extent you say you are after that many years.

Can you not look at different approaches for your plots?  You mention that one plot is only fruit trees, so do you have a weed problem on that plot?  If so, you should be mulching to suppress weeds, using a good quality weed suppressing membrane and mulching with grass clippings or bark chips.  Cheap membrane will allow weeds to get through.  I would also recommend you use cardboard under membrane in areas such as around the fruit trees which will give you added protection against weeds.

Adopting a lower maintenance approach will also benefit you.  I lost all the grass on my plot other than the surrounding shared paths which we have to leave as grass as we don't have time to keep on top of it.  The suppressant is topped with bark chips which needs replacing approximately once a year and prevent the weeds further.  

We don't leave beds empty to stop weeds growing, and use intense planting with less gaps in between for the same reason.  It means feeding the soil well and manuring or adding soil conditioners whenever we harvest prior to replanting, it also means planning and keeping on top of the succession planting, so there are always things in modules as well as stuff we direct sow.

Cover areas that you haven't cultivated with black tarpaulin or similar to keep down weeds, use the lasagne bed approach for new growing areas or to boost existing ones, lay down a thick layer of wet newspaper and mulch with grass clippings then plant through to keep weeds down.

It is annoying when you have other plots seeding weeds over yours but it is the nature of allotments so it is something we all have to deal with.

Ants - I have a small camping stove which I use to brew my cuppa and whenever I brew a kettle, if needed, I use the leftover boiling water and pour it on an ants nest or large colony of wood lice that might be causing issues.

What weeds are your main bugbear?  We get couch grass, bindweed and thistles on our plot and they all have brittle roots that tend to propagate easily if even the tiniest piece is left behind.  Cutting out the light does weaken them enormously and they cease to be a real problem.  I don't really use weed killer for large areas, only on small patches of pernicious stuff that I have tried to remove by other means or which has grown through the membrane (couch in particular with its spears of new shoots manages to get through easily so is easily killed with a quick spray with glyphosate once a year).
Read about my allotment exploits at Ecodolly at plots 37 & 39.  Questions, queries and comments are appreciated at Comment on Ecodolly's exploits on plots 37 & 39

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Re: On the verge of giving it up....
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2012, 22:12 »
Thanks, I am not sure the name of the weeds so will try and take some pics during the week and see if anyone knows what they are.

Will look at the lasagne method as this seems really easy to do? The 3 plots are set out as one I am on my iPad so can't upload a photo but this link should take you to a photo the day we got it https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=20795271894&set=a.20794946894.39889.617416894&type=3 you may be able to see the problem!  We have very long plots as you can see so the last 20 foot has been fenced off with sheds and an area for a fire. Will try and post a recent picture at some point as well. The fruit trees have grass around the which is pretty easy to take care of?
I might try some nematodes for the ants, we had a big slug problem 2 years ago and used them then and touch wood they haven't come back since!

Thanks again it is really apprechiated
« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 22:14 by symonep »

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Re: On the verge of giving it up....
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2012, 22:22 »
The fruit trees have grass around the which is pretty easy to take care of?

Easy but still takes time - time which (personally) my husband and I prefer to spend planting, nurturing and harvesting (and admiring), rather than mowing!  It is worth thinking how you spend your time on the plot.  I think you will be surprised how much time you spend on activities apart from the weeding!

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Re: On the verge of giving it up....
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2012, 22:24 »
Yeah I guess that maybe true just feels like non stop weeding. Hubby mows the plot, I normally spend the next few hours sneezing, eyes streaming and blowing my nose ( got to love hay fever) we have got rid of the grass in some areas but it just keeps coming back.


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