Well i got so
with my octagen 10 i maneged to get round my other half to let me go and geta new/2nd hand 1(king suro 20), but after 2 days of losing on ebay i went and got a new 1(as it seemed the same price for a new 1 or 2nd hand 1's),
just got home with it and i have just maneged to get it together and now it's up and running as i type, i haven't put any eggs in yet as the machine is still sorting out humidity but im like a school kid at Christmas with my new toy....
i cant wait to put them in(may be in half an hour), the eggs LOL