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davethespread

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« on: September 19, 2009, 15:00 »
we have a warden on our site who is in no uncertain terms rude. :wacko: i dont mean he swears,he talks to people as though they just came in with the manure, over things like the gate not being locked when he turns up and its clear you are just about to leave.is there a protocol to follow to report him,or do i whack him wih me spade and bury him :D

i dont think it will be long before he is comfronted by someone.one time i came in and i left the gate open for someone to leave in their car, and they left the gate open he came down the path wielding a hoe in an aggressive manner.the guy needs to learn some manners before someone teaches him some.

thats it rant over now taaa :mad:
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Jonajo

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2009, 15:20 »
we had similar who is also an allotment holder and on the committee but he would go round and tell people off for talking too loudly, for not putting lids on the dalek compost bins properly, for listening to an ipod (in my case!! even though I was using headphones)...a real cantankerous person. But at least he did his job when there were real issues.

On one afternoon a couple of months ago his dog (which we are not allowed to have on the plots!) went tearing through people's plots for about 30 mins, causing a fair bit of damage. This had happened before but the committee did nothing about it! This time several of us wrote separately to the committee and the upshot is we managed to get rid of him and his successor is someone who is firm when it needs to be but fair and does just what his job is.

In your case I would report him, in writing, to the committee, list specific things he has done to cause offense and ask the committee to contact you to acknowlege receipt etc - these things can have a habit of being brushed under the carpet with committees, so be persistent but tactful.
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beansticks

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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2009, 17:04 »
do i whack him wih me spade and bury him :D



Yes .Bury him in the bean trench. ;)

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 19:04 »
Most things are better sorted out by talking to people informally. I would not put anything in writing. It may do more harm than good and it will give him a reason to pick on you as that is how such people protect their petty power. Talk to committee members or the chairman and say that he has been a bit over the top and upsetting people. They may be fed up with him too.

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Jonajo

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2009, 22:27 »
Most things are better sorted out by talking to people informally. I would not put anything in writing. It may do more harm than good and it will give him a reason to pick on you as that is how such people protect their petty power. Talk to committee members or the chairman and say that he has been a bit over the top and upsetting people. They may be fed up with him too.


well that's true but I assumed that talking to someone such as committee about it informally would already have been done, and fairly early on too if this chap is such a menace. And even telling him tactfully about his manner. In which case, those things have clearly not done the trick so a more formal approach might be considered.

But not taking formal action after other informal modes of action have failed just out of fear of inflaming things is fairly daft and pretty much encourages this chap's power games because he will know nothing will be done about it. Or maybe the chap genuinely doesnt realise what a pain he is being to folk and by not being challenged he remains unaware, so continues to do so.

Either way, you DO need to be prepared to list specific instances of his behaviour, with dates etc, in case the committee do want evidence of what he is doing if they are going to take complains seriously. And any committee worth their salt should take complaints seriously.

Although equally I know full well on allotments there is a perception of there being a very fine line between genuine grievances and petty issues.....and similarly some committee members who shy away from plot holder issues full stop if they possibly can with no intention of doing their "job" as it is often far too inconvenient for them!

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 22:59 »
i would be tempted next time your paths crossed to just lean towards him and whisper in his ear what you are going to do to him if he ever talks to you like that again, smile pleasantly wish him good day and carry on with what your doing.............

little bit of power, made him into a bully

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zazen999

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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2009, 23:31 »
for listening to an ipod (in my case!! even though I was using headphones)...

What the chuff has it got to do with him if you want to listen to your ipod?????

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2009, 07:42 »
thanks everyone,he is in my compost heap now,cant seem to stop his legs from sticking through the pallets,anyone got a saw :D.that was my thoughts too chili,i so very nearly went back down there yesterday.

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Zippy

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2009, 09:27 »
Get him to read this thread!

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2009, 17:52 »
It's funny how a small amount of power seems to go to people's heads sometimes  ::) I had a similar experience with a lollypop man, who practically jumped on my bonnet just because I started to move off a fraction of a second before he gave his permission  :lol: I think deep down these people must have an inferiority complex  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2009, 00:02 »
It's funny how a small amount of power seems to go to people's heads sometimes  ::)

Unfortunately it often appears that way. Once promoted some people in my line of work suddenly become totally inhuman and forget what it was like to do the job!  :(
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2009, 12:59 »
Never underestimate people's ability to let you know how important they think they are.   

I would appoint a warden each year at the AGM.  That way you don't get one person who thinks he/she is above the law doing the same job year in year out.  A one year post means that their sins as warden can be visited on them the following year.  That normally keeps people straight and true.  It also get more people involved in the running of the site.

I've always been wary of people that would rather be ref than play.

Remember Davethespread you have to chop things up nice and small for the composter!
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