[chrissie B]

they were oval in shape dark wine colour and the pip was a torpedo shape , they tasted like cranberrys and i got a lovley fortified wine from them and after messing around with them most or the might 2 small glasses of juice .
chrissie b

[gobs]

Did you recognise them in the link, WG sent?

[flowerlady]

Cranberries are also great in Turkey 'leftover' pie    ... but they are TART! so sprinkle a little suger into the pie.  

Delia does a great cranberry sauce with orange and Port ... yum  

[chrissie B]

in the wg pics they look like the dark ones but i would have said they were darker than that , the inside was not like the ones shown they had a solid hard pip or stone , i want the ones that were in bunches , going to makro end of week i will see what i can get there , had my heart set on home made cranberry sauce .
chrissie b

[Salkeela]

I bought a few from Lidl a couple of weeks ago.  Which ones are they do you think??  :shock:

Probably have to wait and see!

[gobs]

I think my confusion is over about this. Thing is, that quoted article that tries to clear up confusion creates some, because the Viburnum Opulus is not American but the European cranberry. (with stone)

botanical

LINK

guelder rose pie

And the other culprit, I cannot find an English page with picture, but now at least I know what 'som' was called in English. This also has a stone/pip, larger fruit.

Cornus Mas


cut fruit of edible cornus

[David.]

guelder rose pie

My local hedgerows are full of Guelder Rose, but when I investigated, nearly every source said it was poisonous. For example:

LINK

"However, for a pretty plant it is pretty poisonous. All the leaves, berries and bark are lethal".

Whilst others said cooking would destroy the problem. But as my main interest was whether fermenation would destroy any poison, I never got anywhere. I did not want to boil the fruit to avoid releasing pectins.

[Salkeela]

Plants for a future gives several types of cranberry listed at link below:
http://www.pfaf.org/database/search_name.php?ALLNAMES=cranberry

I suspect my ones are this type: http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Astroloma+humifusum  simply because of the description of the height and the soil conditions that matches the description from Lidl .... which of course may not be as accurate as we would like... .

I hope it isn't the bog variety as I haven't planted it in a bog!

[chrissie B]

thanks for all the info , the first pic isnt the ones i had but the pic cornus mas looks just like them although mine are darker in colour they may just be riper. i did see some or the first pic in makro but they wanted a fortune for a hand full of berrys and after hubby dropped most of them anyway there were not many left, in the end we went to ikea and bought a jar or the stuff they use with the mearballs ( personal favourite).
thanks for all the help i will look closer next time i buy .
chrissie b

[gobs]

thanks for all the info , the first pic isnt the ones i had but the pic cornus mas looks just like them although mine are darker in colour they may just be riper. i did see some or the first pic in makro but they wanted a fortune for a hand full of berrys and after hubby dropped most of them anyway there were not many left, in the end we went to ikea and bought a jar or the stuff they use with the mearballs ( personal favourite).
thanks for all the help i will look closer next time i buy .
chrissie b

Cornus fruit comes in different colours, can be almost black and yellow, too.

But it is the other fruit you are likely to get in IKEA I believe.

[gobs]

Plants for a future gives several types of cranberry listed at link below:
http://www.pfaf.org/database/search_name.php?ALLNAMES=cranberry

I suspect my ones are this type: http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Astroloma+humifusum  simply because of the description of the height and the soil conditions that matches the description from Lidl .... which of course may not be as accurate as we would like... .

I hope it isn't the bog variety as I haven't planted it in a bog!

I would doubt that would be the variety Lidl sold as cranberry. Try to get some info from their website, maybe.

[gobs]

guelder rose pie

My local hedgerows are full of Guelder Rose, but when I investigated, nearly every source said it was poisonous. For example:

LINK

"However, for a pretty plant it is pretty poisonous. All the leaves, berries and bark are lethal".

Whilst others said cooking would destroy the problem. But as my main interest was whether fermenation would destroy any poison, I never got anywhere. I did not want to boil the fruit to avoid releasing pectins.

I don't know, who wrote that page you sent, I've never heard such a thing. I have never eaten any, mind, but all sorts of folks do. My other too links should answer your question. They are mildly toxic (= meaning stomach upsets) to best of my knowledge, so general advice is do not eat unripe or uncooked or too much. I suspect they are not commonly used as they smell bad, once crushed. Elderberries are also toxic by the way, you not supposed to eat them raw either.

My problem rather would be accurate ID, never go by common name! If in doubt leave it out, I'm no botanist to have the confidence to advise you otherwise.

[gobs]

LINK