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Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on October 23, 2007, 20:20
1.30 this morning i was awoken by a funny scraping sound.

thinking one of he girls had gotten out, i went to investigate.

there on the doorstep this is what i found, eating the cat food i pop out every evening for a cat that doesnt seem to have a home of his own.

i sat watching this little fella eat for ages, lovely

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa171/happy-valley/spike.jpg)
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: SnooziSuzi on October 23, 2007, 20:23
AW!!!   :D   How Cute!

Have you got somewhere it can make as a nest for winter with leaves & twigs; your compost heap maybe?  Would be a good ally in the garden throughout the winter!
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Selkie on October 23, 2007, 20:26
awww i want one!
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Aunt Sally on October 23, 2007, 20:28
And cat food is perfect for them  :D
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on October 23, 2007, 20:29
Quote from: "SnooziSuzi"
AW!!!   :D   How Cute!

Have you got somewhere it can make as a nest for winter with leaves & twigs; your compost heap maybe?  Would be a good ally in the garden throughout the winter!


will see what i can make tomorrow. i have lots of leaves i can pile up. will that be ok?
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on October 23, 2007, 20:31
Quote from: "rosemarycallsthegoddess"
awww i want one!


try putting out cat food, like aunty say's. it really ate well. i had a look around on the web and it says cat or dog food put out at dusk will attract them.

and sorry for putting a hedgehog ina poultry forum but i thought it was cute so shared it
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Aunt Sally on October 23, 2007, 20:34
Don't forget if you feed wildlife you take on responsibility for them.  If you stop they may starve !
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: SnooziSuzi on October 23, 2007, 20:48
Quote from: "happyvalley"

will see what i can make tomorrow. i have lots of leaves i can pile up. will that be ok?


yep and if you can get some twigs too to support the leaf 'roof' then all the better.  Just make sure that the kids don't take it for firewood next month otherwise he'd be evicted.

A lot of hedgehogs unfortunately make nests out of bonfire sites near to November 5th because people start piling up the firewood early and they think it's hedgehog heaven.  Well, for some of them it is after that  :cry:

It's a fallacy that hedgehogs hibernate all winter too; they come out when they are hungry and go back again for a snooze.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on October 23, 2007, 20:53
no problem there, i dont have children. and my neices and nephews wont be allowed to touch it.

im now imagining a little hedgehog tee pee - must be mad.

thanks for the advice suzi.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Fat Hen on October 23, 2007, 21:09
Check out hedgehog preservation society:- http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/.

For advice on all aspects hedgehoggy.

Keep feeding the cat food, it'll stand a better chance of surviving the winter.

I could do with a few, not seen one in garden for a couple of yrs, and we're infested with slugs n snails.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: noshed on October 23, 2007, 21:53
I was woken up by 7 of them indulging in some sort of mating ritual in my back garden once. I can see why they call them hogs, they were quite noisy.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: lucyeff on October 23, 2007, 21:59
Quote from: "noshed"
I was woken up by 7 of them indulging in some sort of mating ritual in my back garden once. I can see why they call them hogs, they were quite noisy.


Sounds like Wakefield on a Saturday night  :lol:  :lol:  :shock:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on October 23, 2007, 22:05
Quote from: "noshed"
I was woken up by 7 of them indulging in some sort of mating ritual in my back garden once. I can see why they call them hogs, they were quite noisy.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

a hedgehog orgy - now ive heard everything lmao
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on October 24, 2007, 00:15
watch out for fleas on ya cats n dogs these * is full of em and also not wishing to be a party pooper but they will kill chicks n chickens setting eggs
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: littlefeat on October 24, 2007, 09:04
how wonderfull

ive not seen any in years, there were tons in worcestershire when i lived there, but up in staffordshire ive not seen any, and i live in a very green area, by a large park and open land :(  

littlefeat
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: pushrod on October 24, 2007, 21:46
A word of warning if you want to keep your hens behind an electric net, hedgehogs will wander into them in the dark and then roll up on them. Eventually dying from the repeated electric shocks. I got round this by putting 8" boards (on their edge) all around the fence and so far this has stopped any more accidents.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 20:24
just a quick update,

wee hogglet is growing well, he visits every night for water and cat dinner. i did go and buy proper spike hedgehog meat, but the cats around here were snaffling it before wee hogglet got to it.

he usually appears at around 8pm for his first nibble, then on and off through to about 2.30am. and he hasnt missed a night since i first saw him.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa171/happy-valley/weehoggles004.jpg)
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 20:49
he needs boxing up happy , keep him warm and free from frost bitten toes :wink:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Selkie on November 10, 2007, 20:51
aw he's titchy!!

think we must have a hedgehog, i'm sure we've got hedgehog poo!
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 20:56
Quote from: "muntjac"
he needs boxing up happy , keep him warm and free from frost bitten toes :wink:


i followed him one night through the garden into the waste ground down the side, where he has built a cosy little nest.

will he not be ok there?

i did make one in the garden but he's ignored that.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 20:58
Quote from: "rosemarycallsthegoddess"
aw he's titchy!!

think we must have a hedgehog, i'm sure we've got hedgehog poo!


is it black about 1 cm long chipolata sausages rosemary?
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Selkie on November 10, 2007, 21:00
yes, thanks happy v --- i keep meaning to look it up in one of my books (yes :roll: I do have books on such subjects) - but from memory i was thinking it was hedgehog;

yay we have a hedgehog, even if i never see him/her i'm happy!!!

(oooh invisible hedgehog :shock: )
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 21:06
i make a confined nest for him happy ,, even a small run if needed ,.mind remember they can climb lol and blooming good at it they are :lol:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 21:06
if you can pop out a shallow dish of water (i use a saucer) and some drie cattypuss food. you will soon see him, and they are so cute. - ever so soft tummys. and when you pick them up, they curl around your fingers.

but like aunt sally told me, its a little comitment to the hogs, so only encourage him if you know you will be able feed and water him everyday, otherwise its best not to start.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 21:07
Quote from: "muntjac"
i make a confined nest for him happy ,, even a small run if needed ,.mind remember they can climb lol and blooming good at it they are :lol:


what if he's a she and has family, would it harm him.

i have a run and hutch that i use for broodies - would that do?
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 21:09
she wont have a family ,,,,,,, its chucking out time well gone ,the brooder is perfick ,,,, put loads hay in the box end ,.water n food outside ,when he/she stops eating the food " its " sleeping  :wink:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Selkie on November 10, 2007, 21:12
your hedgehog looks pretty small and mightn't be able to survive the winter (there is some minimum weight they need to have to have the reserves to last through the leaner months but i can't remember)

we put food out everynight for our two outdoor cats but they wouldn't even leave any leftovers for a hedgehog - boris is 6.5kg and growing!

will try going out with a torch though :idea:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 21:13
cheers munty, i will do that tomorrow and pop wee hugglet in there tomorrow night. when he comes for tea

will he then stay there till spring?

a hoggy with frostbite toes doesnt sound pleasant
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 21:15
the best info on hogs is here

http://www.sttiggywinkles.org.uk/
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 21:17
Quote from: "rosemarycallsthegoddess"
your hedgehog looks pretty small and mightn't be able to survive the winter (there is some minimum weight they need to have to have the reserves to last through the leaner months but i can't remember)

we put food out everynight for our two outdoor cats but they wouldn't even leave any leftovers for a hedgehog - boris is 6.5kg and growing!

will try going out with a torch though :idea:


i wish, my cat has a serious attitude - eat outside?

im going to do what munty suggests and put him in the broodies hutch and run with lots of hay and hopefully he will be fine. ive gotten used to seeing him everyday now. - im such a soft touch
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Selkie on November 10, 2007, 21:23
boris just turned up one day and started living in our shed and soft touch that i am he's been there ever since -- he has two cat beds and a chair to sleep on!

we did try him inside the house but he's very much an outdoor cat (even though he's neutered now he still sprays and fights any of the wandering tomcats that pass through);

he's so podgy he reminds me of jabba the hut (from starwars/startrek - i always mix them up) but every night he comes walking when i take the dog out.

we also have toby in the shed too - another outdoor cat; and then we have my baby pearl who's an indoor puss and likes her home comforts.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 21:24
they do carry loads of fleas happy so be careful with ya cats ..... n please anybody do not tell me they are different fleas ,,i know but they will get on cats n bite etc and then die off if you have the flea stuff .and or leave voluntarily :roll: and they bite humans ,,,,,, both the flea and the hedgehog,they steal eggs and kill chicks and even adult birds sleeping
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 21:28
Quote from: "muntjac"
the best info on hogs is here

http://www.sttiggywinkles.org.uk/


oh dear rosemary hit the nail on the head, he needs to weigh 600grams or he wont survive.

ive just weighed him - 255 grams. poor wee thing, thankfully tiggywinkles has all the advice to see him through the winter.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 21:28
Quote from: "happyvalley"
Quote from: "muntjac"
the best info on hogs is here

http://www.sttiggywinkles.org.uk/


oh dear rosemary hit the nail on the head, he needs to weigh 600grams or he wont survive.

ive just weighed him - 255 grams. poor wee thing, thankfully tiggywinkles has all the advice to see him through the winter.



 :wink:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Selkie on November 10, 2007, 21:33
oooh looks like you've got another member in your little zoo happy v!!
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Aunt Sally on November 10, 2007, 21:41
Quote from: "rosemarycallsthegoddess"
your hedgehog looks pretty small and mightn't be able to survive the winter (there is some minimum weight they need to have to have the reserves to last through the leaner months but i can't remember)


The need to weigh about 600 grams to survie the winter Rosemary.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 21:51
ive spoken to a lady at tiggy winkles who put me onto a lovely lady 3 miles from me, who takes in underweight hoggys for the winter.

she has 5 already.

she said wee hugglets is very small for the winter and that she will happily take him in.

so looks like wee hugglets found a new home with a wonderful lady who knows all about hedgehogs so he will be moving tomorrow.

so happy to know he will have the best care, thanks for all your help here. we saved a hedgehog yeah :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Selkie on November 10, 2007, 21:53
will you get him back in the spring?!

ooh i want to adopt baby hedgehogs (peter would love that) :lol: his mantra is ''we have enough animals'' :cry:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 22:03
im not sure, i think he gets to go back to the wild.  i will ask when i see her tomorrow.

im just pleased to know that as he is so small he is going to get the best chance of survival and without this forum i would never have known he was so tiny - thanks for that.

im going to adopt a hedgehog from tiggywinkles to say thanks.
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 22:04
just dont call it munty ,, it makes me feel guilty as i ate one many years ago lmao  :lol:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Selkie on November 10, 2007, 22:06
Quote from: "muntjac"
just dont call it munty ,, it makes me feel guilty as i ate one many years ago lmao  :lol:


and used the spines as toothpicks :?:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 22:07
Quote from: "rosemarycallsthegoddess"
Quote from: "muntjac"
just dont call it munty ,, it makes me feel guilty as i ate one many years ago lmao  :lol:


and used the spines as toothpicks :?:


 no they was stuck in the clay  :wink:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 22:16
Quote from: "muntjac"
just dont call it munty ,, it makes me feel guilty as i ate one many years ago lmao  :lol:


eww why would you eat a hedgehog, you must have been very hungry - or very ennebr inebri -( oh B*gger cant spell it) drunk
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 22:20
no its was being cooked by soem folks who used to work on the farm, travellers ....great folks  :wink:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 22:39
did it taste good? i know i shouldnt ask, but now youve said it, i want to  know - i must be a cat because curiosity is gonna kill me one day  :cry:

either that or im just flippedy nosey
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 22:41
tasted like boiled bacon actualy  :)
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 22:44
Quote from: "muntjac"
tasted like boiled bacon actualy  :)


ahh so there could be an actual reason why they are called hedgeHOGS.

intriguing :shock:
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 22:45
bush pigs is what they called in the backwoods
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 10, 2007, 22:46
liver and hedghog caserole anyone??   :oops: sorry
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: Selkie on November 12, 2007, 23:02
:roll: thought i'd have a look for my mystery hedgehog (who leaves his poos in the grass)  tonight when we got back from walking the dog.

so off i went patrolling round the whole garden - and got all excited when i saw 'him' -- bit of an anticlimax to discover it was the birds' coconut shell that had been blown off its hook on the birdtable


 :oops:  :oops:  :oops: it did look VERY hedgehoggy though
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: babe on November 12, 2007, 23:17
Quote from: "rosemarycallsthegoddess"
:roll: thought i'd have a look for my mystery hedgehog (who leaves his poos in the grass)  tonight when we got back from walking the dog.

so off i went patrolling round the whole garden - and got all excited when i saw 'him' -- bit of an anticlimax to discover it was the birds' coconut shell that had been blown off its hook on the birdtable


 :oops:  :oops:  :oops: it did look VERY hedgehoggy though


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: thats a classic rosie - i nearly pee'd myself laughing.

i said nearly munty!!
Title: strange noise - escaped chicken???
Post by: muntjac on November 12, 2007, 23:20
Quote from: "happyvalley"
Quote from: "rosemarycallsthegoddess"
:roll: thought i'd have a look for my mystery hedgehog (who leaves his poos in the grass)  tonight when we got back from walking the dog.

so off i went patrolling round the whole garden - and got all excited when i saw 'him' -- bit of an anticlimax to discover it was the birds' coconut shell that had been blown off its hook on the birdtable


 :oops:  :oops:  :oops: it did look VERY hedgehoggy though


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: thats a classic rosie - i nearly pee'd myself laughing.

i said nearly munty!!




 lol  :roll: