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Title: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Chris C on June 07, 2010, 16:09
Hi All
I planted my Garlic Cloves way back in November (sorry i cant remember the variety and have left the tag back on the plot)...anyway they have been through and growing quiet happily for months.
This last few days the folage has all been yellowing and falling down so i assume there are ready to Harvest.... today i have lifted a couple and they are about golf ball size and look nice and white.
After fetching them home i have cut and cleaned one up to my supprise its just one large clove and loos like a small onion ????...it hasnt split into indevidual cloves at all...it smells very strong.
My question is ..... i understood the frost over whinter would split it into cloves so is it really ready or should i still be leaving it to split ??? also do i need to dry them out like and onion ?

Chris
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: savbo on June 07, 2010, 16:26
a friend brought around 3 cloves just like that yesterday, though they are only about an inch across...
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Paul Plots on June 07, 2010, 16:55
I think that you'd need to "dry them out" if you want to store them for later - Dry, sunny place?

As for single bulbs - unusual. I thought, as did you, that they produced lots of smaller cloves once the cold had worked on them over winter.

Perhaps it is something to do with the richness of the soil - beats me  :blink:
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: penance on June 07, 2010, 17:46
The frost helps to trigger the mechanism for splitting later in the season but not immediately.
I would leave them, tho not sure why they would be dieing off this early.
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: tosca100 on June 07, 2010, 18:18
In that L german supermarket you can get little baskets of garlic just like this, it's very strong and actually quite handy for some things. It is grown in China, so that may fit in with the cold not splitting it into cloves. Don't usually buy stuff from far countries but I was curious.
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Chris C on June 07, 2010, 19:00
Thanks for the replys......i have only dug two up and still have approx 20 in the ground so think i will hang the one i havent cut up to dry and try it in a week or so while leaving the others in the ground.....really unsure as to why it hasnt split but i geuss if it tastes good then why worry about it !!!!
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: realfood on June 07, 2010, 19:15
The small size is probably down to the drought this year, and making the garlic think that they are in the dry season.
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: stentman on June 07, 2010, 19:43
Hi All I planted my Garlic Cloves way back in November (sorry i cant remember the variety and have left the tag back on the plot)...anyway they have been through and growing quiet happily for months. This last few days the foliage has all been yellowing and falling down so i assume there are ready to Harvest.... today i have lifted a couple and they are about golf ball size and look nice and white. After fetching them home i have cut and cleaned one up to my supprise its just one large clove and looks like a small onion ????

Chris

That exactly describes my garlic at the moment. As with Chris I don't know what variety they are (Gift from a friend) but mine, all 14, were planted in November as individual cloves seperated out from the two large bulbs I was given. At harvest time I expected 14 bulbs made up of lots of cloves not 14 bigger bulbs of garlic. But as the tops are going from green to yellow what now?
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Rangerkris on June 07, 2010, 20:02
I lifted a garlic today and its stinking the house out hahahha it was about the size of a large  shop brought one
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: chris23005 on June 07, 2010, 20:09
Hi All I planted my Garlic Cloves way back in November (sorry i cant remember the variety and have left the tag back on the plot)...anyway they have been through and growing quiet happily for months. This last few days the foliage has all been yellowing and falling down so i assume there are ready to Harvest.... today i have lifted a couple and they are about golf ball size and look nice and white. After fetching them home i have cut and cleaned one up to my supprise its just one large clove and looks like a small onion ????

Chris

That exactly describes my garlic at the moment. As with Chris I don't know what variety they are (Gift from a friend) but mine, all 14, were planted in November as individual cloves seperated out from the two large bulbs I was given. At harvest time I expected 14 bulbs made up of lots of cloves not 14 bigger bulbs of garlic. But as the tops are going from green to yellow what now?

I lifted one of my garlic plants at the weekend and it, too, was like a small white onion. I believe this is what is known as "wet garlic" and this particular variety (Iberian White) was listed as such at the Garlic Farm in the Isle of Wight. I was not really sure how to use wet garlic so I have just "googled" and come up with the following link.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-green-garlic.htm

As you will see, the article tells us that when garlic is near the surface of the ground and the leaves have gone yellow, then it will be more like the garlic you buy in the shops. What you have at the moment is "wet garlic" which is milder, but probably needs to be chopped like an onion. I think garlic potatoes are going to be on the menu this week! yum! (Damn, just remembered I am supposed to be on a diet........!)

Edited because the message got sent before I had finished! ???
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: JohnB47 on June 07, 2010, 20:15
Yep, same here. I'm leaving mine in the ground for now. Leaves are yellowing at the tips but mostly green and not falling over. Chris - perhaps conditions for yours was too dry. Been dry here too so I watered mine accasionally.
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: chris23005 on June 07, 2010, 20:57
Yep, same here. I'm leaving mine in the ground for now. Leaves are yellowing at the tips but mostly green and not falling over. Chris - perhaps conditions for yours was too dry. Been dry here too so I watered mine accasionally.

Not sure which Chris you are replying to (we seem to have a Chris-mass on this site!  :tongue2:), but if it is me, I have been watering regularly and plentifully until about 2 weeks ago when my instructions told me to cease. Going to chop my garlic up this week - definitely!
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: DavidT on June 07, 2010, 21:08
The problem is, they are being lifted much too early. Garlic need a long growing season. Plant in September, harvest August/September the following year.
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: chris23005 on June 07, 2010, 23:25
The problem is, they are being lifted much too early. Garlic need a long growing season. Plant in September, harvest August/September the following year.


I am just following the instructions given to me by the Garlic Farm where I bought the garlic. This particular variety should be harvested in June as wet garlic because it is a soft necked variety, and those instructions were for the whole country not just the IOW. That may not be the case for the others though as they may have a different variety.
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Chris C on June 07, 2010, 23:42
The problem is, they are being lifted much too early. Garlic need a long growing season. Plant in September, harvest August/September the following year.

If thats the case why do you think the foilage has started to yellow and dye back...too dry ????
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Muddylou on June 08, 2010, 00:00
I bought my Garlic from the Garlic Farm (Solent Wight) and planted at the end of September. All the leaves are still green and presumably still growing so will wait until they start to wilt. I'm certainly no expert on this however.
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Rangerkris on June 08, 2010, 06:18
Yep, same here. I'm leaving mine in the ground for now. Leaves are yellowing at the tips but mostly green and not falling over. Chris - perhaps conditions for yours was too dry. Been dry here too so I watered mine accasionally.

Not sure which Chris you are replying to (we seem to have a Chris-mass on this site!  :tongue2:), but if it is me, I have been watering regularly and plentifully until about 2 weeks ago when my instructions told me to cease. Going to chop my garlic up this week - definitely!

Im Kris with a Kicking K hahahaha mine have had some water over the dry spell.
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: chris23005 on June 08, 2010, 07:45
I bought my Garlic from the Garlic Farm (Solent Wight) and planted at the end of September. All the leaves are still green and presumably still growing so will wait until they start to wilt. I'm certainly no expert on this however.

Yes. my Solent White and my Chesnock, also from the Garlic Farm are in the same state as yours - green leaves and still growing. It is only the Iberian White which is showing signs of being ready. I have left the others in the ground for a couple more weeks to see if it makes any difference even though the instructions specifically say not to - am keeping a close eye on them - don't want them to rot!! It seems to me that the timing is quite fine with these!  ??? Not sure I will bother with garlic next year  ::)
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Paul Plots on June 09, 2010, 00:42
Yep, same here. I'm leaving mine in the ground for now. Leaves are yellowing at the tips but mostly green and not falling over. Chris - perhaps conditions for yours was too dry. Been dry here too so I watered mine accasionally.

Not sure which Chris you are replying to (we seem to have a Chris-mass on this site!  :tongue2:), but if it is me, I have been watering regularly and plentifully until about 2 weeks ago when my instructions told me to cease. Going to chop my garlic up this week - definitely!

Im Kris with a Kicking K hahahaha mine have had some water over the dry spell.

Kicking "K"...... phonic alphabet? What was the name of that series of books?  ???

Clever cat  ???  ::)
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: mumofstig on June 09, 2010, 08:42
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Kicking "K"...... phonic alphabet? What was the name of that series of books? 


my grandchildren are learning to call it a kicking 'ke' (sound) as well  :D
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: chris23005 on June 09, 2010, 20:05
We have tonight used half of the garlic I dug up the other day! I cut the top leaves off but left quite a bit of stem and cut it vertically. You can see the cloves have actually separated when you do this. I then just chopped it all up - a bit like a leek and it was added to a bolognese sauce. The flavour was very mild but it definitely came through and was a gentle alternative to the way garlic usually comes through in a dish. Very nice - and if you can imagine garlic flavoured leeks, you have got it in one!!! :D
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Snoop on June 09, 2010, 22:45
"I cut the top leaves off but left quite a bit of stem and cut it vertically. You can see the cloves have actually separated when you do this"

Hi Chris, I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that the head of garlic is actually separated into cloves, but the cloves are not surrounded with a papery skin?
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: chris23005 on June 10, 2010, 12:30
"I cut the top leaves off but left quite a bit of stem and cut it vertically. You can see the cloves have actually separated when you do this"

Hi Chris, I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that the head of garlic is actually separated into cloves, but the cloves are not surrounded with a papery skin?


That's right - the papery skin only appears when the garlic has dried. If you cut through the head of garlic you will actually see the cloves, but it is difficult to separate them when they are wet. If you can bear to dig one up and cut it open you will see what I mean. The taste is quite mild, but still lovely!
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: bigben on June 10, 2010, 12:37
We have tonight used half of the garlic I dug up the other day! I cut the top leaves off but left quite a bit of stem and cut it vertically. You can see the cloves have actually separated when you do this. I then just chopped it all up - a bit like a leek and it was added to a bolognese sauce. The flavour was very mild but it definitely came through and was a gentle alternative to the way garlic usually comes through in a dish. Very nice - and if you can imagine garlic flavoured leeks, you have got it in one!!! :D

I read on a post a few months ago that the French call leeks baton garlic.
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: superluke2 on June 10, 2010, 13:18
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Kicking "K"...... phonic alphabet? What was the name of that series of books? 


my grandchildren are learning to call it a kicking 'ke' (sound) as well  :D

is this it?
http://www.letterland.com/
Title: Re: Harvesting Garlic
Post by: Paul Plots on June 11, 2010, 01:01
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Kicking "K"...... phonic alphabet? What was the name of that series of books? 


my grandchildren are learning to call it a kicking 'ke' (sound) as well  :D

is this it?
http://www.letterland.com/


That's it - Letterland! I remember reading the books / stories with my son - now 24!  ::)