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Poultry and Pets => The Hen House => Topic started by: Griffete on November 29, 2012, 20:18

Title: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on November 29, 2012, 20:18
Hi there everyone,  I,v just got myself some chickens  :)
I can get sawdust wood chippings for free....i,ve been  told that its dangerous if it has redwood in it......is this true....seems stupid to me as its a natural timber.....i could understand if the timber has been treated.....
Any advice would be great.
here are the chucks
 
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/chickens-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: joyfull on November 29, 2012, 21:32
not sure about the redwood but you shouldn't use sawdust instead you should use dust extracted shavings.
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: joyfull on November 29, 2012, 21:33
forgot to say congratulations on getting your girls - life will never be the same  :D
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on November 29, 2012, 21:43
Hi thanks for congrats.....the shavings are from a dust extractor in a wood yard being all the wast out the machines.... is this the same as  dust extracted  shavings ? or has the dust extracted shaving gone  through a different process.....all the dust taken out the shavings ?  sorry for the stupid questions just want to get it right
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: ANHBUC on November 29, 2012, 23:50
The dust needs to be extracted as it can cause respiratory problems for birds.  What you have described does not sound suitable.

You can get big bales of shavings from equine supplies at reasonable prices.  There are also lots of other products made from hemp core, miscanthus and rape seed straw which are suitable and possibly more absorbant than shavings.  They will also compost quicker.   ;)

Congratulations on getting your chickens.   :D
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: CDave on November 30, 2012, 06:58
Hemp products definately compost much quicker. Not sure how long redwood shavings would take. Sounds like you have already overcome the dust problem if you do use shavings. And you might not be composting your shavings? Good luck.
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: ehs284 on November 30, 2012, 07:38
Hi, you don't actually say what you want the material for, but all previous posts re dust are spot on. As you're on the Wirral then Charlies are a good source of many chook things (one at Queensferry) with shavings at £7-14 per bag. Looking at your run, and the weather we've had and the forecast :-( can I suggest some 20mm gravel on at least a part? Makes life a lot easier and can be washed/raked. Enjoy your chooks.
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on November 30, 2012, 17:36
Thanks for all the help and advice......will pop into Charlies and pick some up.....its for the floor on the run as its a bit wet but as said will put gravel down when i get the chance...thanks again everyone....will get some more pictures when its all sorted out as the run there in is just temporary   
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: finleyfreyaseth on December 02, 2012, 19:22
as your on the wirral lartons livery at frankby are closer and just as cheap,on the floor of my run i use straw get a bale for 3.50 lasts ages and if you composting wen u clean it up its great on ure heap i just scatter the straw to cover the floor the chooks love rummaging through it
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 02, 2012, 20:10
That's great advice...... didn't even know lartons even existed........   will try the straw  8)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Lindeggs on December 06, 2012, 01:22
Are you just looking for something for the floor of your run (where it's muddy) or inside the coop where it seems to have a roof so presumably drier?

For the run I would suggest a base that's free-draining.  Something like gravel or sand would work well.  Then on top of that you could put something that the chickens can scratch through like bark or wood chips.  It still needs to be free-draining though, so probably not sawdust that would get wet and compacted and potentially mouldy.  I would have thought straw would get wet and mouldy in an outdoor area too.

Also in the outdoor part think about whether the ground cover will end up getting blown around your garden!

For the indoor part, wood shavings work really well.  It's this indoor area where you need to be especially careful about dust and mould spores.

Whatever you use, by keeping your hens' feet up off the mud, you will find their nests (and therefore their eggs) will stay much cleaner.  Good luck, and please may we see the 'after' pictures when you're done?  ;)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Trillium on December 06, 2012, 02:49
Not only does the dust get in their lungs, but also into eyes when they flap about and causes discomfort and infections. Been there, done that.

Redwood (aka sequoia) is quite weather resistant like cedar and may contain oils harmful to poultry. No one is willing to test out the theory on their birds.  In North America, the recommended poultry shavings are soft woods that will break down quickly and not retain molds harmful to birds. Some folk I know are now using wood chips for their birds and it's working well so far.

Here's a handy, if lengthy, list on stuff harmful to all birds: LINK (http://www.lairofdragonsbirdrescue.com/files/How_20to_20Kill_20Your_20Birds_20Without_20Trying.pdf) 
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 06, 2012, 18:30
Once again guys thanks for all the help and advice.... will take a few pictures of the new coop its nearly ready......just got to get the nest boxes sorted and put a door on...i was lucky to get a free shed 12 x 8   8) I've ripped it apart and made it in to a coop......the chucks will be out the mud by Saturday and in the new coop

here are a few pictures getting built
  (http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/coop-1.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo6.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo5.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo7.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo8.jpg)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 07, 2012, 16:42
Here is a picture of the coop finished........just got to put nest boxes in and perches
 http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo9.jpg
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: ehs284 on December 09, 2012, 10:32
You spoil those chooks :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Great job
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 09, 2012, 20:31
Thanks i will look after them the best i can  :)Here are a few more pictures of the nest boxes i made and a couple of perches....
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo17.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo20.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo19.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo18.jpg)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Beano on December 10, 2012, 08:55
Blimey! Lucky chickens, that looks great.
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 10, 2012, 19:25
Thanks there settled in fine now and loving the new coop.........happy hens   :D
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Sassy on December 11, 2012, 09:46
It all looks absolutely brilliant.

I cannot see from the photos re the perches. Have you rounded off the edges? If not they will be much better if they are rounded off (not round though). Apologies if you have done this. It looks as though you could go into business making hen huts! ;)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 11, 2012, 16:58
 Hi Sassy, no i haven't rounded off the edges.........i will get the router out and do that tomorrow first job....thanks for the heads up  8)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: nerdle on December 12, 2012, 12:40
Brilliant photos - really helpful.  I'd love madam to do some perching and save the daily poo pick.  I thought the same about rounded edges - are bird's feet designed to wrap around a branch - or sit on top?
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Sassy on December 13, 2012, 10:06
They wrap around hence the need to round off the edges of perches. ;)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 13, 2012, 20:21
3 more girls coming tomorrow  8)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Sassy on December 14, 2012, 09:08
To 5* accommodation :)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Brood of Bournemouth on December 14, 2012, 13:12
Great job on the house, I'm sure they'll be happy in there. How many hens are you going to have?
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 14, 2012, 15:08
There is 10 in there now....see how its go's next year i may get a few more but for now i think there is just enough for the size of the coop...... want them to have plenty of room and be happy :happy: will keep you all updated on how thing go.....they had a bit of a fight when i first put them in there but seemed to have sorted it out....i got them for free they was in a back garden with no room so should be better on the plot with lots of room to run round ...will get some pictures tomorrow of them and the rest of the girls. I've  just taken on the plot next door so lots of space for them  8)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 14, 2012, 16:53
To 5* accommodation :)

Thanks Sassy :blink:
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Number 7 on December 14, 2012, 20:31
Great job Griffete, I have serious Hen House envy!  :blink:

You have given me a few ideas for my girls come spring, really like the Nest boxes, what did you use? They look like milk crates but not sure!?!?

 :blink: :blink:
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 14, 2012, 20:42
Thanks number7, One of the guys on the allotment gets them from work.....there just stacking crates...i was going to use 20LT plastic drums but these stack better and was the perfect size
here is the other option with the drums
   (http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/box_zps9e00d7b4.gif)
milk crates would do great as well....hope this helps
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: ANHBUC on December 15, 2012, 09:43
Thanks for that last photo Griffete my neighbour has given me a container like that.  Her son runs his Jeep on some sort of oil and she said I can have as many as I need.  I was trying to work out what would be best to use them for and now I know.  I like the design so the eggs roll to the front under the wood to keep them safe and clean.   :blink:
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 15, 2012, 12:44
Should help with the red mite as well with them being plastic and easy to clean  8)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Number 7 on December 17, 2012, 12:17
Thanks Griffete, I'll keep my eyes open for few spares!   :blink:
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 24, 2012, 17:10
Here are the girls having fun in the poly tunnel eating all the slugs and what's left of me veg  :lol: and making a mess  >:( kicking soil everywhere
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo27_zps518c3af6.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo28_zps4136034e.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/fekete_2009/photo29_zps63edda9c.jpg)
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: ANHBUC on December 24, 2012, 21:14
Thugs with feathers, trashing your poly tunnel.   :D
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 25, 2012, 14:36
That's what they are ANHBUC, will have to keep them lock up when the growing season starts  :lol:  
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: ANHBUC on December 26, 2012, 15:43
I don't think even an ASBO will keep them out!!   :D
Title: Re: Sawdust
Post by: Griffete on December 26, 2012, 16:47
There getting well fenced in the little rascals ASDO there getting custody for a few months  :lol: