Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: rhysdad on April 18, 2011, 15:13
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I've sown my leeks in deep pots a la John's video on here. His advice is really regarding planting out but makes no mention of care beforehand. Do i need to thin them out (i just 'broadcast' by hand) and now i have 40/50 seedlings per 8" pot. I did see some advice about feeding them with a dilute solution of seaweed liquid feed. Also, i have them in our conservatory at the moment but they'd get better light in the greenhouse but i'm worried about them overheating. Any thoughts at all please?
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You only need to thin them enough that they can grow to about finger thickness in the pot before you plant them out. They'll look pretty crowded, but will be OK. The root will be very tangles when you try and get them out but if you soak the whole lot in a bucket of water they'll separate nicely for planting out.
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Thanks for the reply Simon but what is too crowded and which is just right?!? I guess at the moment most of the seedlings are about 15mm from each other, give or take?
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I saw an online advice video where the guy had a couple of hundred in a single large container (think stacking storage boxes).
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Thanks for the reply Simon but what is too crowded and which is just right?!? I guess at the moment most of the seedlings are about 15mm from each other, give or take?
Sounds like yours have plenty of space , do not get disappointed if they do not get to finger thickness (i wish) or even pencil thickness . Most of mine are drinking straw diameter when they get dibbed out. :)
I still get good leeks. :)
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Leeks really do not need to be in a conservatory/greenhouse, gradually hardened them off and then put the container out in the garden, or the allotment, preferably with a bit of shade if the heat continues this week.
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Leeks really do not need to be in a conservatory/greenhouse, gradually hardened them off and then put the container out in the garden, or the allotment, preferably with a bit of shade if the heat continues this week.
Thanks Lesley. Although the conservatory is warm in the day it's very cool at night, is this 'hardened off' enough or do they need to get outdoors/indoors etc etc?
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Try outside during the day/inside at night for a few days then leave them out - just make sure that the first night they are left out is not due to be a frosty one :ohmy:
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I've never got mine to finger thickness, more like biro refill thickness, and they still thrive.
Keep a few back for any failures, and just leave them in a clump in the ground, they still grow a little, and can be used as normal - but small normal!
I also tried to transplant some of them when they were very small, and quite honestly, I cannot notice any difference in size, length etc.
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I plonk mine in with a dibber at grass thickness...they are always ok for me.
If I waited until pencil thickness Id probably be planting out in September!
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ah the elusive pencil thickness, let alone finger thickness. Mine only ever get to a few mm thick and that's it before planting out and that annual "oh my word, everyone else has planted theirs out, I had better do mine too asap otherwise I will be too late..." feeling takes over! :)
In terms of thinning, I do that when I am ready to transplant: I gently lift a "clump" from the vessel in which they grow (currently an old kitchen bin!) and work them apart carefully but with a bit of "oomph" if necessary and if too tangled. They do come apart, though, and even if the odd root falls off (and some will) they should still grow,
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ah the elusive pencil thickness, let alone finger thickness. Mine only ever get to a few mm thick and that's it before planting out and that annual "oh my word, everyone else has planted theirs out, I had better do mine too asap otherwise I will be too late..." feeling takes over! :)
In terms of thinning, I do that when I am ready to transplant: I gently lift a "clump" from the vessel in which they grow (currently an old kitchen bin!) and work them apart carefully but with a bit of "oomph" if necessary and if too tangled. They do come apart, though, and even if the odd root falls off (and some will) they should still grow,
Put the clump of leeks in a bucket of water for 10mins then give them a shake in the water, this washes the compost out and helps the roots separate .
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Do i need to thin them out (i just 'broadcast' by hand) and now i have 40/50 seedlings per 8" pot.
I've always done them like that (sown fairly thickly, in not-very-big-pots) in the past. They are pathetic when dibbed-out (defintely "drinking straw" or "biro refill" and not "pencil thick"), but are fine by harvest time (unless you are looking for Leeks as thick as your arm!)
If you have a small plot there may be some mileage in growing thicker Leeks as space will be a premium. I grow about 100 Leeks, and they don't take up a lot of room - 6" apart and 4 rows across my 4' raised bed.
This year I have sown them in a polystyrene tray (DD uses Cat Litter trays, there is a famous thread (http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=26363.0) :) with pictures). I hand-placed each seed about an inch apart each way, and I will be interested to see if I get Pencil-thickness for planting out this time :)
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I have never, ever, ever seen leeks at pencil thickness at the dibbing in stage.... are you sure its not "as thick as a pencil line", coz thats about closer to what seems normal to me :-)
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I've just looked at DDs cat litter thread... are those real??? :-)
When on earth do you start them off?
Ok, i'll change my thoughts to "I have never ever ever seen leeks at pencil thickness at dibbing stage, in the leeky flesh"
That do? :D