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Title: Bonfires
Post by: mrs bouquet on October 08, 2018, 14:00
I just got back from washing the sheets, clothes etc, down at the river, bashing it on the rocks etc.
Hung it all on the lines, and about 45 minutes later Bonfire Charlie (as he is locally referred to)
lit up. He lives across the valley, and the belching smoke was drifting all over the entire village.
Washing all back in, and I hate to say it, tumble-dryer on.   (only because I am harassed this week)

Hallo,   Monday morning, sun is out, how inconsiderate.  I am sure it could have waited until 4 pm ish.  Mrs Bouquet  :mad: 
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: mumofstig on October 08, 2018, 14:40
That's the thing - the problem isn't the bonfire itself, it's the people who light them without considering others  >:(
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: Goosegirl on October 08, 2018, 15:10
Anyone with a bit of sense would look around, see which way the wind is blowing, ask neighbours etc, but those types can't be bothered. It also depends on what they're burning as anything made of rubber or plastic can be quite noxious especially if anyone has asthma.
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: rowlandwells on October 08, 2018, 17:57
most people with a grain of common sense usually burn in the evening when most people have taken in there washing or its calmer for burning allotments rubbish burning  is banned from the end of March till the first of November where my daughters has her allotments

last winter it was a very cold and dull day I was chopping some firewood and generally tidying up as no one had any washing out I lit up our chimenea to have  a little warm the smoke was blowing across the open fields away from any properties


after about three days I received a letter from the District Council threatening me with an asbo because I had been reported that I had caused excessive smoke and an noxious smell
and that unless I desist from lighting fires court action would be taken against me


I was gob smacked I wrote to the council explaining there was no problem with both smoke or a noxious smell and that due consideration was given to others and properties around me before lighting the fire


they replied that someone had made a complaint and that they where following up the complaint and that the letter was a standard letter they could not offer any dates that I supposedly had my fire and that this complaint would last on there files for six months but I'm not going  to let this rest i have threatened them with legal action to prove when this had taken place as yet there declined to reply


prior to this someone reported us to the local parish for burning plastic no time or  dates this was given to prove when this took place to the council and subsequently the council addmited   that they had no evidence to prove we where burning plastic and  members of the council where  supportive that all our plastic was recycled and there was no case to answer to obviously we have some rats living near us that  need to remember every dog has its day  :mad:


PS not forgotten :mad:


Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: Lardman on October 08, 2018, 18:19
... they replied that someone had made a complaint and that they where following up the complaint and that the letter was a standard letter they could not offer any dates that I supposedly had my fire and that this complaint would last on there files for six months.

Remind them of their obligations under the DPA and GDPR ... It's information about you - you have the right to view it.  :nowink: You can have a field day under the new GDPR regs if you want  :D  ;)

 
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: Christine on October 09, 2018, 08:25
Well Mr RowlandWells sir we have a lady at the end of our allotment site who comes up with such allegations every time there is a fire in the area - on the allotments or not. She has complained to the local town council so often that the clerk now asks for date and times.

I carry a camera whenever I'm down the allotments and hope I can catch pictures. Just to show that it's not black, burning plastic or whatever. But she's been complaining for so many years that I don't think she will stop.
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: rowlandwells on October 09, 2018, 09:34
a big thank you for your replies Christine and Lardman I will chase up GDPR and DPA never gave that a thought will reply how things progress on this matter later


again many thanks  :)
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: mrs bouquet on October 09, 2018, 10:14
Bonfire Charlie is burning in his back garden.   It is probably leaves etc, and I think maybe odds and sods.
I would not consider complaining.  Our village is not a smokeless zone, and therefore I guess he can do as he wishes.   It is just the inconsideration regarding his timing that rattles us.  Mrs Bouquet
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: Goosegirl on October 09, 2018, 11:28
ASBO plus possible court action for lighting a chimnea with all due consideration. Has your council gone totally mad ?????????????????????? You get 'em boy!  ;)
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: snowdrops on October 09, 2018, 13:19
Today it’s a lovely sunny windy day here and as it was the 1st bonfire day of the week (Tuesdays &Thursday’s 9-3 ) I’ve had a bonfire on my allotment, but as always I set some wood going to get it really hot before adding the dried potatoe haulms, tiny potatoes & a few green weeds, result hardly any smoke.
It’s like anything else down to consideration & respect for others.
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: Aidy on October 09, 2018, 16:48
As a resident next to the lotty site we were getting well miffed off with a tiny number of mindless inconsiderate peeps light fires when they wanted to when all had washing etc out.
Despite me asking them to consider people around they didnt listen.
However as the council wernt interested only sent a note to say consder those around however one shot himself and others in the foot and started a fire which caused so much smoke, two surrounding roads had to be closed to traffic until the police and fire brigade sorted it out.
The only time a fire is now allowed is Nov5th after 5pm, any lighting before will be in breach of tenancy and booted off.
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: wighty on October 10, 2018, 17:13
We double checked last Sunday and no, no-one had washing out so we lit our incinerator.  After about 20 minutes our neighbour came out and started hanging out her washing  and then complained!  We don't really get on with them anyway and I  pointed out that we were there first and she soon backed down. 
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: Veg Plot 1B on October 11, 2018, 08:14
Have two extremes... what to do about those that leave washing out for days & neighbour that burns smelly stuff on wood burner.
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: mrs bouquet on October 11, 2018, 11:12
Have two extremes... what to do about those that leave washing out for days
What a strange thing to do - why ?   Perhaps it hasn't been washed, so they just leave it there until considered clean enough to bring back in.   :lol: :lol:  Mrs Bouquet
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: rowlandwells on October 11, 2018, 16:57
still on the subject of bonfires I must tell you about our little escapade down the allotments yesterday having  collected quite a lot of weeds and shrub cutting up the house garden we decided to take it down the allotments to burn as we had cut all the potato tops of the spud crop on the plot  last week so we could harvest the spud crop


so we arrived unloaded the trailer made a large heap of rubbish potato tops and all  and lit up the bonfire  :ohmy: the smoke was billowing over the cemetery next door lucky no one was visiting then  through the smoke came the parish council allotments rep who was doing his monthly inspection of the cemetery and allotments


we quickly put out the fire lucky for us and i know him very well  he seen the funny side of it i apolgzed for making billows of smoke across the cemetery  unfortunately  after we lit the fire the wind changed so i've now spread all the rubbish out on the allotments  hopefully it will dry out so we can burn it next week fingers crossed the wind will be in the direction away from the cemetery  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: wapello on October 11, 2018, 21:34
Have two extremes... what to do about those that leave washing out for days
What a strange thing to do - why ?   Perhaps it hasn't been washed, so they just leave it there until considered clean enough to bring back in.   :lol: :lol:  Mrs Bouquet




They were waiting for it to rain,,, ::) :nowink: :D
Title: Re: Bonfires
Post by: al78 on October 12, 2018, 16:07
Our village is not a smokeless zone, and therefore I guess he can do as he wishes.

I doubt that is true. I would have thought that inflicting a health hazard onto other people through pollution would be discouraged by the authorities. The fact is that in a civilised society you can't just do what you want, and rules exist to protect people from the carelessness/malice of others.