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Title: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on October 14, 2013, 20:06
Late in September I purchased some Autumn Planting onions & garlic but did not have the chance to put them in the ground.  Since then there has been plenty of rain and now I am worried I have missed the boat.  Should I just bite the bullet and pop them in the ground and hope for the best or will they keep till next autumn.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: snowdrops on October 14, 2013, 20:16
They'll be fine to plant now. They won't save. If you're still struggling to get them out you can plant them in modules & plant in the New year
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on October 14, 2013, 21:23
 I am new to gardening please can you explain what u mean by modules. Sorry if this is obvious.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: bravemurphy on October 14, 2013, 21:26
Its only just autumn here now so they should be fine.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: mumofstig on October 14, 2013, 21:56
I am new to gardening please can you explain what u mean by modules. Sorry if this is obvious.

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Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: 3 allotments on October 14, 2013, 21:59
hi Yorkshire lass you can still plant onions till end of this month/garlic till mid/end November.modules will be small pots or trays with different sized holes for planting seeds ,easier ;) to bring things on in the greenhouse. see this link,  http://www.growveg.com/growblogpost.aspx?id=239   good luck,darren :D
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: Steveharford on October 15, 2013, 07:01
Yep. I'm still planting garlic as and when I can get out to weed and prep the area. Still got onion sets to do yet. Plenty of time.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: arugula on October 15, 2013, 07:37
I don't think you're too late, the onions will be ok into November and possibly longer, the garlic until December or even January. What I would say is DON'T rush to plant them in wet ground. It's better to wait and let the ground dry out a bit or you risk them rotting instead of growing.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on October 15, 2013, 07:46
Thanks to everyone for all your kind words of encouragement and information.  I am still worried that the ground is too wet and they will not germinate. However feel encouraged that others are planting the same things as I want to. I guess if I dont try I will fail.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: New shoot on October 15, 2013, 10:08
Well that's very true  :)  The surest way to fail is to give up before you start  ;)

If your ground is prone to laying wet, planting the onions and garlic with a little handful of grit in the base of the hole can help.  When my plot was new to me and the heavy clay soil hadn't had much compost dug in, I did this and it worked well  :)
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: 3 allotments on October 15, 2013, 19:01
hi they have 2 choices so may as well put em in :D
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: taffe on October 18, 2013, 08:29
checked my garlic yesterday (marco and thermidrome) which i planted on 11/10/13,and they've started coming through already.Amazed!
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: nannytroll on October 18, 2013, 08:42
I "lost" my garlic crop cos the goats got in  :(  and ate all the tops off in June/July. Now they have shoots about 10cm high. I've dug a couple up and they are very small. Should I dig them all, or leave and hope for a bumper crop next year?
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: The Golden Heap on October 18, 2013, 10:12
I was planning to plant my onions and garlic this weekend, but gonna rain ALL weekend!!! >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: chillimummy on October 18, 2013, 11:04
Was going to plant my garlic and onions today but very wet here so will wait bit longer. Grit in bottom of each hole sounds useful idea. Been told previouslythat using ?potash helps keep rust away. Wondered when you apply this? At same time as planting or later?
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: chillimummy on October 18, 2013, 18:33
Went to allotment earlier and soil not too wet and quite crumbly so planted three rows of red onions.
Will leave garlic til November I think though
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: Wiltshire Worms on October 19, 2013, 13:59
planted mu onions this morning...1 row red...2 whites
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: 3 allotments on October 19, 2013, 18:09
Its still okay to plant them, i ::) got 90 garlic planted today and 30 shenshu onions
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on October 27, 2013, 09:45
Well I am pleased to report I have 2 rows of Senshyu Yellow, 2 rows of Red Electric and 3 rows of White Snowball onions planted.   8)  fingers crossed as this is my 1st attempt at growing anything,  as I have only had my allotment for 6 weeks. Please can someone tell me when I can expect to see some growth from the onions, they have only been in the ground for 7 days. 

I am also in the process of clearing another strip in my plot to plant some Garlic  :) ;) 


Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: bravemurphy on October 27, 2013, 11:08
I planted my onions garlic 3 weeks ago and they are just starting to show.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: LilacSandy on October 27, 2013, 11:39
Don't worry if you do not see a lot of growth quickly as they put their energy into getting a good root system before sending up a lot of top growth.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: LilacSandy on October 27, 2013, 11:48
I "lost" my garlic crop cos the goats got in  :(  and ate all the tops off in June/July. Now they have shoots about 10cm high. I've dug a couple up and they are very small. Should I dig them all, or leave and hope for a bumper crop next year?
Best to dig them up and split the cloves and replant the largest in another area, however if you leave them in you will still get some sort of crop but it will not be 'bumper'.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: nannytroll on October 27, 2013, 14:41
I "lost" my garlic crop cos the goats got in  :(  and ate all the tops off in June/July. Now they have shoots about 10cm high. I've dug a couple up and they are very small. Should I dig them all, or leave and hope for a bumper crop next year?
Best to dig them up and split the cloves and replant the largest in another area, however if you leave them in you will still get some sort of crop but it will not be 'bumper'.
Thanks for that. I'll do it as soon as this storm has passed.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on October 27, 2013, 21:09
Don't worry if you do not see a lot of growth quickly as they put their energy into getting a good root system before sending up a lot of top growth.

It looks like I worked this out today, I accidenetally dug up some sets I planted a week ago and noticed that it was building up a  marvellous root growth.

I planted my onions garlic 3 weeks ago and they are just starting to show.

It looks like I am going to have to develop the art of patience too. 3 weeks is a long time   :lol:
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on November 03, 2013, 18:42
I am very happy to report that my onions are starting to produce stalks, top growth, leaves (not sure what is the correct terminology.)   ???
They are very small (half a cm at the most!!)  So this generates another question will they be okay through the frost, the logical part of my brain says yes, because they are over wintering onions. 

But will they???

Thanks in advance  :unsure:
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: bravemurphy on November 03, 2013, 21:47
We had a frost the other night and mine are fine.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: JohnB47 on November 03, 2013, 22:01
I am very happy to report that my onions are starting to produce stalks, top growth, leaves (not sure what is the correct terminology.)   ???
They are very small (half a cm at the most!!)  So this generates another question will they be okay through the frost, the logical part of my brain says yes, because they are over wintering onions. 

But will they???

Thanks in advance  :unsure:

Yes they'll be fine. Mine have been covered in snow in the past. Of course there must be a limit to their ability to endure the cold but I think we're unlikely to experience the sort of extreme low temperatures that would see them off (here in the UK that is).
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: gavinjconway on November 03, 2013, 22:03
They grow massive roots in their first few weeks and then start to shoot the greenery.  They are made for Autumn planting and will survive in full frost, snow, hail and ice.. and whatever winter brings.. but you might loose a few so dont worry.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on November 04, 2013, 07:47
They grow massive roots in their first few weeks and then start to shoot the greenery.  They are made for Autumn planting and will survive in full frost, snow, hail and ice.. and whatever winter brings.. but you might loose a few so dont worry.

Thank you  8)
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: tosca100 on November 04, 2013, 08:40
Panted 150 onions and 120 garlic this morning. All came from the local market, variety unknown! But I am presuming they are bred to withstand the cold here which can be severe but not for months at a time. Some of that time they will be under feet of snow so protected from freezing to a degree.

In spring i am hoping to put some red onions in as well as some keeping white. The ones I have bought to eat (from the market) have been lovely.

Hopefully I will be able to sell some at the local car boot sale! :ohmy:
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: DD. on November 04, 2013, 09:00
Panted 150 onions and 120 garlic this morning.

That'll keep them nice and warm!

I'm going now.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: mumofstig on November 04, 2013, 09:25
I've still not got mine in - it had better stop raining soon  ::)
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: JohnB47 on November 04, 2013, 16:36
Panted 150 onions and 120 garlic this morning.

Panted? Is that some devilishly clever way to get your onions off to a good start?  :tongue2:

(I've heard of 'old boys' carrying peas around in their waistcoates a while before planting).
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: tosca100 on November 04, 2013, 18:52
Panted 150 onions and 120 garlic this morning.

Panted? Is that some devilishly clever way to get your onions off to a good start?  :tongue2:

(I've heard of 'old boys' carrying peas around in their waistcoates a while before planting).

 :lol: :lol:More gasping really! All that bending not funny with arthritis in hip and knee!

 Too many crumbs on the keyboard. :D
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: snowdrops on November 06, 2013, 06:49
I was late ordering garlic & has yet it hasn't arrived,they said delivery until the end of Nov,so hope they aren't tricking me :blink: I'm sure they will be OK & if I can't get them in the ground they will go in modules in the greenhouse-no heat.
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: tosca100 on November 06, 2013, 08:15
Our dear neighbour, who has been wonderful in showing us how things are done here in BG, came over just before dark with a bowl of garlic for us to plant and strings to keep them in line. We had to explain that we had already p(l)anted 120 and had another 50 to go in so didn't need them. Then felt guilty all evening at the sight of her crestfallen face. :( It seems she had been over to our English neighbours earlier and had the same reaction, so feel even worse now. I suppose, as OH says, we need to be as independent as possible, but still......

She is going on about lettuces too, but OH has bought (far too many) lettuce plants from the market, (so that we know we have the right ones to cope with the harsh winter) along with a carrier bag full of strawberry plants, all for less than two quid, so we are going to be busy again!
Title: Re: Is it too late to plant 'Autumn planting' onions & garlic?
Post by: mumofstig on November 06, 2013, 17:24
I've still not got mine in - it had better stop raining soon  ::)

gave up waiting for some dry weather, and got the children to plant them in modules in the school garden greenhouse. I'll bring them home when the weather improves.