Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: parttimer on March 11, 2011, 23:23
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Could anyone suggest a good reliable tomato variety for growing outdoors, I heard a rumor today that potato disease's can spread to tomatoes? I live way down here in the south if that helps with selection.
Thanks
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The potato disease in question is the dreaded blight, which will also spread to tomatoes as both are part of the same family, deadly nightshade.
To my knowledge, there's no true blight free tomato, but any of the smaller varieties of tomatoes would quickly ripen in the UK climate rather than large fruited ones which take a number of months.
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Blight's a devastating disease, but the good news is that you probably won't get it every year.
We try to grow toms in four locations - greenhouse, west, south and east of the house, (we even tried north, because there's a sun trap in the early morning - not that fantastic actually), so that there's a fighting chance that you can keep some going, before spraying.
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Carry out repeated, preventative spraying the moment the first batch of tomatoes starts to set. Use fungicide containing mancozeb or copper. They don't provide 100 per cent protection, but an attack will be slowed down and you should get ripe tomatoes.
The RHS say this : -
"Tomatoes are generally very susceptible, but the varieties ‘Ferline’, ‘Legend’ and ‘Fantasio’ are claimed to show some resistance, but will eventually succumb in wet, warm weather. It is probably best not to rely on host resistance for blight control in tomatoes".
I'd always grow toms whatever the potential problem, we had eighty plants (four types) going last year, and none were blighted, so go for it, and good luck!
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There is no need to go to external sites as there is a comprehensive thread in the FAQ's section of this very forum on blight recognition & avoidance:
http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=56717.0
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|'m going to give Tomatillos a try, not sure how they will fare this far north, but growing them for a bit of fun anyway. Will bring them on in my wee plastic greenhouse for as long as poss before planting out (prob end May, early June)
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i grew moneymaker last year,had a great crop,its an old variety an seems very reliable,goon for green house as well
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Flavour is very lacking, though compared to a lot of others.
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Don't think i would spray my tomatoes with copper.
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It's a bit of a lottery with outdoor tomatoes and blight but you can improve your chances by growing a fast-maturing variety and making sure you don't create a micro-climate favourable to blight, which basically means good air circulation round your plants and watering at soil level so as to not wet the leaves.
Red Alert is a very early bush-type tomato which has done well for me in the past few years; ripe tomatoes from early July and even when blight struck one of the plants in late August I managed to get all the green toms off and ripened successfully indoors.
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Last year outside, I found St. Pierre gave a heavy crop of medium to large round fruits of good flavour.
Principe Borghese also did well giving a heavy crop of small, plum like fruits suitable for drying.
Tigerelle and Harbinger gave flavoursome but modest crops while the beefsteaks- Marmande and Coeur de Boeuf were a bit of a waste of time outside.
For a yellow tomato, Ryders Midday Sun (heritage) did well.
No signs of blight on any of them
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I have always done better with Tomatoes in pots outdoors than in the ground. I have no explanation for this
Garden Pearl in pots for me!
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Last year outside, I found St. Pierre gave a heavy crop of medium to large round fruits of good flavour.
Principe Borghese also did well giving a heavy crop of small, plum like fruits suitable for drying.
Tigerelle and Harbinger gave flavoursome but modest crops while the beefsteaks- Marmande and Coeur de Boeuf were a bit of a waste of time outside.
For a yellow tomato, Ryders Midday Sun (heritage) did well.
No signs of blight on any of them
do you get much blight in France?
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I have always grown Alicante in the greenhouse, but this year
I intend to try some out the allotment
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Last year outside, I found St. Pierre gave a heavy crop of medium to large round fruits of good flavour.
Principe Borghese also did well giving a heavy crop of small, plum like fruits suitable for drying.
Tigerelle and Harbinger gave flavoursome but modest crops while the beefsteaks- Marmande and Coeur de Boeuf were a bit of a waste of time outside.
For a yellow tomato, Ryders Midday Sun (heritage) did well.
No signs of blight on any of them
do you get much blight in France?
I've not been here long enough yet to give you a definitive answer Mum- over the last 3 seasons there has been blight on the spuds and toms during sticky late summers.
Strangely enough only a very few of my Cara potatoes were affected last season.
edited to clarify quote
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Ooops - sorry DD; I'm still finding my way round all this site!
Mind you, a good search for a particular query I had recetly, brought me straight here, so I'm indepted to you and the team!
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Not a problem!
It's a good idea for all to have a quick scan down the FAQ section - it's often missed. It's by no means a coverall, but a lot of the basics and some handy hints are there.
I really do recommend joining Blightwatch, it's a really useful tool to have in your armoury.
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Thanks DD, I'll do all that, and also look to Bightwatch, as it seems everyone on the plots were blighted last year, although we were fine at home a quarter of a mile away!
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Often the case due to the more sheltered aspects at home.
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I'm growing some in, some out but all my plum tomatoes outdoors. I'm growing F1 Incas and Pomodoro something or other (an Italian variety for passata sauce)
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The last time I grew tomatoes in the ground was in 1976 and seem to recall they did pretty well.
For the last four years I`ve grown Garden Pearl in large pots on the patio but they succumb to the blight eventually.
I bought a packet of Roma VF in Wilkos for 25p last autumn, so I`m going to try them on the lotty. The plan is to sow the seeds this week and pot them on into ever larger pots, keeping them in the conservatory, then outside by day in may, finally planting them in the ground in june. How high will they be by then?
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I am giving Black russian a go this year as an outdoor variety, I had all mine in the greenhouse last year but I got hammered by blight in all the 5 varieties I got some nice toms prior to getting blight.
I sprayed them with Dithane from the first flowers was a waste of time IMO
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Two years ago, I was the only one on my site that had blightless tomatoes.
I was the only one that sprayed.
Draw your own conclusions.
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Grew sungold F1 outside last year, grew for miles. (i was lazy & let it do it's own thing)
Lots of small (cherry) tasty toms.
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"Shirley" seem to do well both in the greenhouse and outside (sheltered).
Not bad easy going cropper, won't break any records but in a good year can make a lot of fruit.
This year, we're trying "Alicante" the same way.